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The MonaVie Acai Berry Super Fruit Juice - Mona Vie Scam?

Published 12/30/08 (Modified 3/8/11)
By MoneyBlueBook

Review of MonaVie and The Acai Berry Fruit Juice Company's Health and Marketing Claims

MonaVie. Mona Vie. The word actually sounds like a spin off of some french phrase (mon ami), but when I hear the name, two things immediately come to mind - acai berry juice and multi level marketing pyramid scheme. The MLM business scheme or pyramid marketing concept usually elicits a series of red alert alarm bells in my brain's BS scam detector, however, I'm willing to take a closer look at MonaVie before rendering my personal critique and verdict. After having tried out and actually tasted the MonaVie acai berry fruit drink, I have to admit, it's a rather sweet and tasty beverage - sort of a crisp combination of grape juice, blue berries, black berries, and a hint of dark chocolate. There's not much negative commentary I can sling at the MonaVie product in terms of taste alone, but the outrageously expensive price tag and the rather suspicious marketing approach of the company leave much to be desired.

As an ordinary American consumer and a casual observer, I'm not sure what to make of this whole MonaVie acai berry fruit juice craze that seems to be sweeping the health and fitness world. The product's been featured on the Food Network and on daytime talk shows for women like the Rachel Ray show, and eagerly touted by popular television hosts like Oprah Winfrey as the ultimate nectar of the gods. At least several medical commentators have appeared on The Oprah Winfrey Show recently to promote the acai berry as an invaluable source of super food nutrients and as a magical method to promote youth and bodily rejuvenation. While most of the on-air health commentators were on the Oprah show to promote their individual books, even Oprah herself seemed to jump on the acai berry bandwagon, endorsing the nutritional claims of the tiny purple berry in her own boisterous way.

And it's not just celebrity women either (who in my sexist opinion tend to be very ultra health conscious). Even celebrity guys seem to be getting in on the acai super fruit craze as well. There are numerous photos floating around on the internet of well known celebrities (both male and female) photographed with���� their MonaVie acai juice bottles. I've seen hip hop stars and motor sport athletes on MTV's Cribs show opening up their refrigerator doors for the camera to proudly display their prized rows of ultra-expensive MonaVie branded acai juice bottles. To top it off, when the Boston Red Sox won the Major League Baseball World Series in 2007, you even had several pitchers and players publicly thanking the Mona Vie company and attributing their athletic success to the seemingly magical healing powers of the MonaVie acai berry drink. When professional athletes who have just won the most competitive pinnacle award of their profession celebrate their triumph by giving a ringing endorsement of a particular enhancement product, citing the competitive advantages it allegedly provided their bodies through the grueling eight month long baseball season, I definitely take notice. However at the same time, my curiosity is greatly tempered with a strong dose of skepticism and suspicion at the celebrity's personal motivations for such a resounding product recommendation - and I find myself wondering if the celebrity was partly motivated by financial considerations.

Without a doubt, MonaVie is a popular and highly promoted superfruit juice product, frequently mentioned in popular entertainment and athletic circles among the rich and trendy. It also has a strong growing presence online and on TV, but then again, so do many of the numerous get rich quick schemes and snake oil scams out there, featuring all types of facial cleaning products and useless weight loss shakes and pills. All such popular products have their own legion of compensated celebrities ready to help make the sales pitch and enthusiastically promote the product to the audience. Just because a product is heavily marketed and seems popular does not make it legit. Thus I wanted to take a more objective look into the MonaVie product itself, its health claims, and its marketing approach to decipher for myself the legitimacy of the brand. My primary goal is to answer these series of questions - Is MonaVie a scam? Does MonaVie acai juice berry drinks actually provide the health benefits re-soundly touted by its army of rabid distributors? And finally, is MonaVie a product I would actually purchase and consume for myself as an average, everyday mildly health conscious consumer?

The MonaVie Acai Berry Juice Product

MonaVie is a fruit juice drink made up of a blend of 19 different fruits. In a nut shell, it's like Odwalla or Naked branded smoothie drinks - except the drink is marketed as an acai berry product and it comes in a fancy looking wine bottle to give it allure. While the company refuses to disclose the actual numbers detailing individual juice makeup, it eagerly markets the fruit juice cocktail as some type of specially formulated super fruit juice, citing its composition of acai berries for its supposed magical ability to cure all sorts of physical and mental ailments. While the company does not expressly state that the MonaVie acai berry juice drink is capable of amazing healing properties, that is the marketing direction the company seems to strongly hint at. Obviously due to legality reasons, MonaVie can't officially claim its juice drink to be a health elixir, but it sure seems like it unofficially wants to based on the promotional dance it's constantly engaging in.

Inside of its fruit juice drinks, MonaVie lists as one of its primary ingredients - the acai berry (pronounced ah-sai-ee) - a small purple black fruit about an inch in size and produced from the acai palm tree in the Amazon of Brazil. Through its network of distributors, the MonaVie company promotes the message that its unique acai berry juice blend contains many of the antioxidant related health benefits associated with the acai berry and other special fruits. Supposedly, these super fruits are packed with powerful nutrients and antioxidant compounds that uniquely protect the body's cells from damage and disease, boost the immune system, and slow down the otherwise inevitable process of aging. However, much of the alleged health benefits of MonaVie and the extent of the nutritional value of acai have been called into constant debate and frequently questioned by naysayers that cast suspicion at what exactly is contained in MonaVie and the extent of its alleged nutritional value if any. Certainly, the company's reluctance to share detailed information about the specific acai berry concentration found in its bottles and its mysterious refusal to reveal detailed proportional make up of how the���� fruit juices in the MonaVie blend are made up continue to fuel discussions abut the health claims made by the product's distributors.

Monavie Acai Is Sold Exclusively Via A Questionable Multi Level Direct Sales Approach (AKA Pyramid Scheme)

Mona Vie acai juice drinks are not available in traditional supermarket chains or grocery stores like Safeway, Kroger, or Wegmans, and they're not even available via specialty health minded retailers like Whole Foods or Trader Joe's. You definitely won't find the company's products at discounters like Walmart or Costco - no, the MonaVie company shuns the traditional sales outlets in favor of a more personalized and almost cult like marketing approach.

MonaVie was launched in January 2005 by a long time direct sales marketing veteran and since then, the company has relied exclusively on a multi level marketing strategy to promote and sell its expensive juice drinks. For all intents and purposes, the company's more of a powerful marketing machine than a health food provider. Certainly there may be substantially better fruit juice products out there at much cheaper prices, but frankly, and somewhat commendably, MonaVie does a pretty powerful job of hyping and cleverly convincing health fanatics that they absolutely must drink this product everyday to live their lives to the fullest.

By tapping into a sales stream that takes advantage of trusted personal relationships to generate sales, the company has become wildly successful - at least on the sales side. Those unfamiliar with multi level marketing (MLM) may be more familiar with its common nickname - the pyramid scheme. A MLM or pyramid scheme relies on a direct sales technique based on a relationship referral business model whereby trusted people are the engine components that drive the commission based sales. Whenever a sale is made, a lofty commission is paid out, not only to you (the person who made the sale), but also to the person who referred you into the marketing program as well as to the person who referred your direct referrer - hence the pyramid nature of the arrangement. Because these multi level marketing programs are so potentially lucrative for those at the top of the pyramid (the upline), the system strongly encourages and incentivizes participants to zealously promote the product and heavily recruit new entrants into the program (the downline) to further earn sales and commissions for those on the up line.

Now, the one thing that must be made clear is that not all multi level marketing programs or pyramid schemes are inherently evil or illegal. Not all pyramid schemes are blatant scams or disreputable shell games the same way that Ponzi Schemes are. In fact, there are many otherwise thinly legitimate multi level marketing programs out there such as Amway, Avon, Mary Kay, Herbalife, Tupperware, and all sorts of online affiliate programs. However, many of these MLM based companies suffer from the same stigma and questionable scrutiny that MonaVie faces as well. While not outright frauds or scams like the way Nigerian 419 scams are for example, the same scammy concerns arise because many of these MLM programs really only benefit those at the top of the marketing pyramid and often encourage overzealous sales techniques that frequently lead to almost predatory recruiting tactics and pitches. Oftentimes as well, many of these MLM programs demand contractually obligated sales quotas that members must satisfy every month or face having to purchase the products themselves to meet the sales quota requirement. In the case of MonaVie's contractually obligated arrangement for wannabe new distributors into the program, new entrants are obligated to buy at least 4 bottles a month of the pricey acai berry juice. They don't come cheap and failure to sell enough bottles every month will require that the distributor contractually purchase the required quota for personal use.

As noted by an investigative news article from Newsweek, according to income disclosures, most of the million strong sales team of MonaVie appear to be really just drinking the juice themselves rather than selling them as originally intended. More than 90% of supposed distributors of MonaVie are actually considered wholesale customers, whose earnings were mostly discounts on sales to themselves. Remarkably according to the article, fewer than 1% of the MonaVie marketing pyramid's sales people qualified for commissions and of those, only 10% made more than $100 a week. The Newsweek article even goes on to state that according to a top MonaVie recruiter, while obviously not disclosed by the company, the MonaVie multi level marketing program's drop out rate's around 70%. It's certainly a fascinating tidbit to keep in mind as you ponder the question of whether MonaVie's a scam. While I personally don't think MonaVie is a scam as they do offer an otherwise legitimate fruit juice product, the acai juice company sure has rather unsavory fringe elements to it.

In regards to the secret world of direct sales and pyramid marketing, I had my first negative exposure to MLM programs when I was recruited by a company called Vector Marketing to sell Cutco branded knives back when I was just an 18 year old high school student. For some odd reason, many fellow high school students such as myself were targeted with elaborate marketing sales pitches by Vector Marketing recruiters to become trained in the art of tapping personal relationships to sell ridiculously and insanely overpriced Cutco steak knives to our friends and family members. Obviously, our recruiters were eager to train us into becoming their commission earning downline so that they could profit from our sales as our upline referrals. While the Cutco knives we lugged around and sold were of obvious high quality, they were no where even close to being worth the exorbitant price demanded of each individual cutlery. Quality is one thing, but they were and to this very day, are still vastly overpriced. While I was able to tap into my personal relationships and beg a few neighbors to shell out hundreds of dollars for a few knives out of pity, I remember always feeling extremely scammy and sleazy during my rehearsed sales pitches to supposed loved ones. As a mere 18 year old at the time, I wasn't too fond of���� having to take advantage of my close relationships for financial gain. There was nothing illegal or deliberately evil about the whole sales system, but the whole multi level marketing approach simply felt shady and rather manipulative to me.

Mova Vie Is Extremely Expensive and Overpriced Despite Its Alleged Acai Berry Health Properties

The MonaVie acai berry juice product is not cheap. In fact it's downright expensive - ridiculously overpriced at astronomically rip off levels if you ask me. A single MonaVie juice bottle will cost you $30-$40 per bottle, for a little more than 25 fluid ounces of the fruit berry mixture. According to the promotional material, to fully appreciate the nutritional benefits of acai berry juicing, you're supposed to drink at least 2 fluid ounces of the purple stuff in the morning, and another 1 ounce at night. At the rate suggested by the MonaVie company, a single bottle will last you about a week. At $30-40 a bottle, that comes out to $120-$160 a month, and $1,440-$1,920 a year. Unless you are swimming in money and flush with dollars like the professional athletes or financially well off���� like celebrities Oprah Winfrey or Rachel Ray, chances are, you're going to find regular consumption of this product to be well beyond your financial means. The lucrative price of each expensive bottle of Mona Vie can probably be traced back to the high cost of commission maintenance that must be paid out to the entire pyramid marketing chain upon each sale.

Because of the multi level marketing nature and aggressive direct sales promotional tactics of MonaVie distributors, a wide array of ridiculous health and nutritional claims seem to have blanketed the internet. Sometimes it's a little difficult figuring out which writer is trustworthy and which one is blatantly a sales guy. I have personal gut-feeling suspicions that sizable portions of these favorable web-based health comments and supposed online testimonials were made by MonaVie distributors and financially interested sales promoters trying to hype up the appeal of their pricey cash cow via fake product reviews. A quick browse of the internet quickly reveals all sorts of outlandish testimonies and anecdotal stories by random people - claims of how MonaVie acai juice drinking cured their heart disease, healed their arthritis, alleviated stress and depression, cured their acne, reversed their aging, repaired joint damage, got rid of joint and back pain, cured their cancer, treated their diabetes, made them more energetic, and even improved their sex life. The craziest claim I've seen was some gentlemen who claimed that his steady diet of Mona Vie acai berry juice made his special male anatomy organ larger and more virile. I've even read a few ridiculous claims by anonymous female commentators on various Mona Vie related blog posts touting how acai berry juicing grew their chests and helped make their breasts larger. The myriad of outlandish and totally unsubstantiated claims are quite abundantly available online - an unfortunate side effect that distorts the truth, whenever there is a lot of sales money to be had.

Now it's one thing for a product to be expensive and it's a whole different matter altogether if the product doesn't actually do what it says it is supposed to do. The literature and research on the amazing health benefits of drinking MonaVie and the supposed God-like healing properties of acai berry juice are still not entirely definitive. While there is little doubt that berries and fruits such as acai, blue berries, blackberries, and pomegranates common loads of nutritional vitamins and powerful compounds such as cell repairing antioxidants, the research is not yet entirely supportive that these are indeed super fruits that can cure all and heal all. There is scientific evidence that the acai fruit and other dark berries are uniquely high in Oxygen Radical Absorption Capacity (ORAC), a rating system that evaluates a food product's ability to fight harmful free radicals in the body, but that doesn't mean that a single fruit can potentially replace all other alternative sources of vital nutrients.

To be fair, the MonaVie company doesn't actually go out of its way to blatantly promote the MonaVie product as a magical berry elixir anymore. MonaVie does not actually make the health and nutritional claims itself. Due to stricter federal scrutiny of Mona Vie's official claims, the company has drastically cut back on its previous assertions of health benefits and healing properties. The company is now content with marketing the MonaVie drink as merely a high end fruit juice product, letting its legion of cult like Mona Vie acai berry drinkers and promoters hype the unbelievable health benefit innuendos on their own. After all, the motto of the MonaVie company is - "Drink It, Feel It, Share It" - which sounds more like a sales focused marketing directive of sorts to me.

Acai Berries Do Contain Lots Of Nutrients - They Just Don't Have Super Healing Powers As Suggested By Some Independent MonaVie Distributors

As a mild defense for the key heralded component of MonaVie's juice product - the acai berry does indeed contain abundant nutritional value. There is quite a bit of research touting the health benefits of acai berry as a good source of fiber, minerals, vitamins, polyphenols, and antioxidants for healthy bodily performance. The expensive acai fruit does indeed contain a wealth of nutritional benefits compressed into each little purple berry, but then again, much of the same health benefits can easily be found in large concentrations in other more common and cheaper fruits such as bananas, blue berries, and apples as well.

Despite my admitted fondness for the taste of acai, I'm extremely wary of buying into the whole MonaVie acai juice product because I simply do not know how much of acai can be found in each bottle. Because MonaVie refuses to disclose the actual composition of its juice drinks, we do not know for certain the exact breakdown of its juice cocktail and the exact amount of expensive acai berry concentrate in the blend. It's very important to keep in mind that the MonaVie juice mixture doesn't contain acai berries exclusively. It's comprised of an admitted blend of 19 fruits - including many common and cheap fruits like bananas and apples, easily found in your neighborhood grocery store. If you really buy into the claimed health benefits of juicing and nutritional potency of acai berries, there are much easier and cheaper ways to get your purple berry fix. Most grocery stores sell acai berry juice variations and even certain online stores sell similar acai berry laden juice drinks, acai powders, and acai capsules for much, much less.

The fact of the matter is that people are always looking for the easy way out and frequently are all too eager for a magic potion that will make take away the need to put in effort. There is plenty of research touting the overwhelming health benefits of a low fat, low sugar diet comprised of lots of fish and whole grain foods. There is also overwhelming evidence that smoking and excessive alcohol drinking wrecks havoc on physical and mental health, and that daily consistent exercise is absolutely essential to healthy living. Yet, we as humans seem to ignore those simple practices and remain perpetually enamored with the possibility that there are super fruits out there that can serve as magic silver bullets to our health problems and ailments. The reality is that there is no such thing as a one size fits all super fruit. Proper health and nutrition requires a good moderated balance of fruits, vegetables, and proper exercise - not the services of a single food product - especially not one that is so expensively priced.

How To Buy MonaVie Online And Test Out Acai Berry Juices For Yourself (Remember, It's Not Cheap and Its Health Claims Are Not Fully Substantiated Yet)

Recently, I purchased a few bottles of MonaVie online simply to test out and review the juice product for myself since I didn't know how else to try it out for free. While I have no intention of actually signing up as a distributor or getting myself locked into some multi level marketing contract, I think it's perfectly understandable if there are people out there who remain curious about the fruit juice blend. It's admittedly rather tasty, albeit extremely expensive and somewhat overrated. Personally, I don't buy the magical juice berry claims of the MonaVie supporters and chose to consume the drink on a one time limited basis as I would any new drink. If you really want to start juicing, buy a fruit juicer for yourself or buy pre-made fruit smoothies from the grocery store. Many of these pre-made blends contain acai berry and they're a much cheaper way to get exposed to the nutritional value of acai should you so choose to partake. If you really insist on joining the MonaVie acai berry craze, there are plenty of equally good generic acai berry brands out there as well - in various just-add-water powder products and pills.

In the event you are determined to test out MonaVie acai berry drinks or similar acai berry products based on curiosity, here are a few ways to buy them online. Remember, it's not an endorsement, and I'm just pointing the way for you if you insist:

  1. MonaVie Active Health Juice With Acai (Amazon) - 1 Bottle of the dark purple stuff.
  2. MonaVie Active Juice Bottles With Acai (Amazon) - 4 bottles - A way to buy MonaVie online without having to agree to some recurring sales contract.
  3. MonaVie Juice Bottles With Acai (eBay) - Cheapest method to buy MonaVie online without commiting to a distributorship agreement, but requires eBay auction bidding.
  4. Natrol - Acai Berries 1000mg Per Serving 60 Capsules (Amazon) - 60 capsules
  5. Organic Acai Fruit Capsules with Camu Camu (Amazon) - 60 capsules - The Brazilian acai berry in pill form.
  6. 100% Pure Acai Fruit Powder with Camu Camu (Amazon) - 90 grams - Just add water to make an acai powder juice drink.

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329 Responses to “The MonaVie Acai Berry Super Fruit Juice - Mona Vie Scam?” 

  1. Donna says:

    Yvonne, you've come to the right place. Monavie has several criminals already working for them, so you'll fit right in. I hope you weren't planning on making a lot of money, because the average distributor makes a little less than minimum wage.

  2. weeze says:

    Mona vie does not contain 1/3 of acai berry in its formula. The person that claims that is a idoit. It barely has 5% acai berry in it. I sold Mona Vie, it is good if you dont have a real job and want to make other people money. It was a waste of 6 months of ny life

  3. frankie says:

    Wow! I lost 25 lbs in a little over an hour drinking this stuff!
    Believe you me!
    Mona Vie!

  4. Roseann says:

    Let's see. Never heard back from Fred. And the last 3 comments are just plain stupid. This has turned into a great blog I see. Glad I haven't bothered to waste my time any more on it.

  5. MonaNot says:

    My brother-in-law has been selling this stuff for several years now. What's sickening to me is all the money he spends flying to ridiculous conferences where they flash bling bling and unethical marketing tactics. My sister supports him because she thinks it's their answer to a fantasy financially independent life style where she can stay home and live in the lap of luxury. However, I can see how miserable she is when the credit card bills come in for lavish hotel cost, car rentals and bottles and bottles of lame fruit juice. She feeds their son capfuls of this junk just to show what a supportive wife she is and recites ridiculous claims of how healthy her child is as he gags on the stuff.

    They're digging themselves into big Monavie hole that will ruin their marriage and destroy their financial future, all for the promise of a Diamond level status. Despites years devoted to this MLM scam, he still has to work a full time job and he won't say how much he has made (obviously nothing because they're always broke).

    The worse part is to see how Monavie ties in the Christian faith into this hellish scam! They bring in renown pastors to speak at every conference and promote worship and bible studies into their sick agenda. Jim Jones would be proud. My brother-in-law comes home from late weekday meetings after work and whole weekend trips in Florida to send me pictures of the latest millionaire, newest flashy car given away, and of course, the bible message that just touched everyone to tears. Wow, gluttony and Christianity taught together, Jesus would have loved that.

    Drink the Monavie koolaid people if you want. Hope you choke on it! Least it's in a fancy bottle.

    In the meantime, my sister is going to have to have thyroid surgery to fix her major health problems with hyper thyroidism. Good thing she's got Monavie bottles stocked up in her fridge. That'll save and heal her. Yippee!

  6. MonaNot says:

    BTW, their son is always sick too. Gotta love it. Monavie rocks! NOT!

  7. Roseann says:

    Wow. MonaNut should be that one's name. I guess blogs brings out all the nutcases. If you wish people would choke on something that doesn't make you a very nice person now then does it?

    MonaVie doesn't "cure" anything. It just makes you healthier if you don't normally eat right, and very few people do because it's difficult to these days with the way our food is grown. I have no idea if it would have helped with Hyper Thyroidism, and I have no idea how much some people spend going to evey event or whatever else they do. But the truth is that it DOES help some people - and a very high percentage based on everyone I've shared it with - and you don't have to spend a lot of money to be involved. If it helps you, you drink it. If something helps you, you tell people about it, and if it helps them they will too, and you'll make a little money. If someone expects to get rich overnight from this stuff then they ARE drinking koolaid and should probably have their head examined. A few may have done that, but the vast majority are probably making a little more than enough to pay for their juice, and that's enough if they're not out anything. They've got better health and it didn't cost them anything. At the end of the day, I think that's worth it. And if they make some effort to really get out there and talk about something they believe in, then who are you (or the rest of the people dissing this) to talk badly about them? Maybe if you had a life you'd find something better to do.

  8. Food Tech in CA says:

    What's your definition of "helps them?" Drinking a glass of water will help someone who is thirsty. If you're saying that it helps any medical condition, then you are incorrect. If it were true, MonaVie would be doing cartwheels to have the product clinically tested. They haven't initiated even one double-blind study. What does that tell you?

  9. Roseann says:

    I meant "help" someone because it DOES no matter how you want to twist it. I showed you my blood test results that showed my cholesterol went way down and after going to that trouble, you basically called me a liar. If you weren't going to believe them then why did you ask me to send them to you? I went to the trouble because you SEEMED to be sincere and POSSIBLY w/o any other agenda, but obviously I was wrong. So much for having an open mind. And I also prefaced my remarks by saying that it especially helps people if they don't eat right. I also know that I no longer get the sinus infections I used to get, my husband doesn't have back pain, and I could go on and on. I didn't say "cured" because if we don't continue to take it, the symptoms come back.

    I think it's funny that you want to jump on me for saying it "helps" people but there's not one comment out of you when MonaNut wants everyone to choke on it. What a great bunch of people you are that are against something you really don't have any experience with. Luckily there are people out there that can see that.

  10. Food Tech in CA says:

    I confirmed on this board that your cholesterol tests showed a decrease in the LDL (bad) and total cholesterol numbers. However, there is no way that I can attribute that to drinking a fruit juice. You may have been on meds or changed your diet, which any reasonable person would be expected to do. Instead, you claim that drinking 4 ounces a day of MonaVie, did the trick? Sorry, but I don't believe in the tooth fairy. Sinus infections come and go, with or without fruit juice, so that means zero.

    I know four different people that have tried MonaVie for aches and pains, diabetes, and some other minor ailments. Not one had even the slightest benefit. Explain that.

  11. Scott says:

    I've missed this, the controversy continues. But I will throw my two cents in. I have a friend that was hot and heavy into this stuff for about a year. He claimed that he would be making a lot of money, and was realy pushing it. But now he is near bankruptcy, and about to lose his house, Huh. But he does have a realy nice looking truck with Monavie emblems all over it. I wonder how much that cost.

  12. Roseann says:

    As I said Food Tech, you asked me to send you the proof so I did. You saying that you can't attribute it to fruit juice even though I sent you the proof you asked for, and I've TOLD you more than once that I did absolutely nothing different, including not changing my diet or taking any medication, you're saying I MUST have, so you're calling me a liar. For everyone else's benefit here, the tests were done almost a year ago, so it's not like I knew I was going to get on some blog and planned having to send my bloodwork results out. I wouldn't have bothered sending you this PROOF if I knew you'd have such a closed mind about it.

    As for you knowing 4 different people that have seen no benefits from it, I know MANY more that HAVE, but you wouldn't believe them either, so why bother asking how I can explain that YOUR people have seen nothing? I've said I've known a few as well that noticed nothing - it's just that I know a lot more that have. You can stay in your little dark world of not believing anyone that disagrees with you. I, however, do not choose to call people liars that have, in good faith, tried to show people something that has helped them, for no reason other than to HELP them. I'm not making any money off of anyone on here and don't intend to. My motives are a lot clearer than those on here that rant and rave about something they have no experience with. And I'm not necessarily talking about you, Food Tech, because you at least SEEM to have some knowledge and are trying to explain it away with that knowledge (though that's just not good enough because of the results MANY people are seeing.) I'm talking about the wackos that have mostly disappeared by now. My only real problem with you is that you've called me a liar - and admitting that my results were as I said they were, but then saying I manipulated them in some way isn't admitting anything at all. Since there's nothing I can say that can convince you that I didn't do anything different, I won't bother trying anymore. But you really need to examine yourself - how much of a negative person you are - to call someone a liar you've never met and who has not shown themselves to be anything other than what I have said I am all along. You're not a very nice person.

  13. Roseann says:

    Gee - I'll bet everyone believes Scott too about his friend - but gosh, I don't see any proof of that either!

    Again, you're talking about the MONEY aspect of someone trying to get rich quick, and nobody has to dump a bunch of money into this - and if they did, that's their fault. If they're weak-minded enough to fall for this they'd fall for anything else that came along too. I seriously doubt their investment into MonaVie caused someone to lose their house - but apparently your "friend" wan't too bright in the first place.

  14. Food Tech in CA says:

    Roseann, you get in a huff and say that I called you a liar, so I must be a negative person. In your very next post, you call Scott a liar. So, I guess neither of us are very nice.

    Here's my point, which is very simple. You are a distributor. You need to find recruits to make money. It's very well documented that MonaVie is not a particularly high source of antioxidants, so you've lost that selling point.

    What's left? Exaggerate your experiences with MonaVie. Your cholesterol did not go down because of MonaVie. If MonaVie could do that don't you think they would want to prove it? Why aren't any clinical studies being proposed?

    I'll, again, reprint this from MonaVie's Black Diamond University website, in regards to the Pulse product and cholesterol:

    Important Guidelines
    ������ MonaVie products (including Pulse) are not intended to replace or mimic the activity, effects, or benefits of drugs or medications. Do not substitute or replace your medication(s) with MonaVie Pulse.

    ������ The plant sterol activity, effects, and benefits in MonaVie Pulse as it relates to heart health and cholesterol are significantly less than that found in drugs.

    ������ If you have a concern of any kind related to MonaVie Pulse or its contraindications with medications, consult with your physician before consuming MonaVie Pulse.

    ������ Do not use MonaVie Pulse as an alternative to physician consultation or advice.
    ������ MonaVie Pulse does not cure heart disease.
    ������ MonaVie Pulse does not cure, treat, mitigate, or prevent serious cholesterol problems.
    ������ MonaVie Pulse is intended for healthy people, not for people with heart or cholesterol diseases.

    I assume that you are familiar with the new FTC regulations which went into effect this month. If not, you should read up on them, because they are going after, not only MonaVie LLC, but distributors, such as yourself, for making unproven claims.

  15. Roseann says:

    My claim IS proven. I know what I did and did not do, and I know what my blood test results were. "They" can go after me all they want. And YOU can SAY what you want, but it doesn't change anything. I have not exaggerated anything - what I told you are facts and they are the truth. Since you refuse to believe them, you chose to call me a liar. THOSE are the FACTS.

    As for calling Scott a liar, I didn't do that. All I said was that all the NEGATIVE comments are taken at face value w/o anyone having to PROVE anything. So, YOU'RE the not nice person, not me. I haven't called him or you a liar. Just very negative people.

  16. Food Tech in CA says:

    This is your exact words: "I seriously doubt their investment into MonaVie caused someone to lose their house"

    Sounds like you're calling him a liar to me.

    Basically, we have the word of a MonaVie distributor that has an agenda to try to sell fruit juice, against the word of a food scientist, with thirty years of experience.

    The distributor expects us to believe everything that she says because, well basically, because she said it.

    The scientist provides several references (see previous posts) that prove that MonaVie is nothing more than fruit juice.

    The scientist also provides statements from MonaVie that disagrees with the distributors own claims.

    The reader can weigh the evidence for themselves.

  17. Roseann says:

    Oh come on. Results don't lie no matter what you post here. YOU are the one disputing results simply because you don't want to believe them. If you'd even CONSIDER that I'm telling the truth - and just because I'm a "distributor" does NOT mean that I'm trying to sell ANYONE juice here - then MAYBE you'd at least question why it DOES work instead of trying to prove it doesn't. But you apparently have such a rotten view of the human race that you think everyone's a liar. I wonder why.

    As for Scott's friend losing his house because of MonaVie - he never said that THAT was all that caused him to lose his house - and I was pointing that out so no one else believed him to be saying that either. Since you think that's what I was calling him a liar about, you're wrong again, and apparently read more into what Scott was saying that what he actually DID say.

    As for your being a "scientist" with 30 years of experience, well, you haven't sent me any proof of that, so, not that I'm saying you're a liar, but we have no way to substantiate that either. I'm simply pointing that out - not asking you to send it because, honestly, I don't care. Once again, I know what results I had and, other than the FACT that you're calling me a liar so other people won't try something that could help them, I don't care what you think.

  18. Food Tech in CA says:

    Well, I have scientific references to back up my point. What do you have, besides your unverifiable, obviously made up anecdotes?

    Would you like me again to cite the references that pont out an apple has a higher ORAC score and more polyphenols than 4 ounces of MonaVie? Perhaps, you would like me to compare, any one of many fruits and vegetables, with higher antioxidant levels?

    If your entire argument is based on the "because Roseann said so" study, then I believe you need to spend your time on the Bigfoot/UFO forums.

    You've written a lot of words, but haven't yet, made a point. You're just making yourself look silly now.

    You wrote this back in September: "If and when I have time to find the sites I saw before that conflict with yours, I will come back and post them."

    Should have been plenty of time to find those "mysterious" sites. Still looking?

  19. Xihuan Dama says:

    I went off to do the whole Vector Marketing thing the summer after I graduated high school. It was not a MLM scheme, but it was a good way for me to understand and test out the interpersonal skills I always knew i had, in a real life situation. It was my first real job and I am grateful for all the sales skills I learned form that experience. I started with my close fiend's parents and family members. I quickly learned the importance of networking!

    I still use the free set of Cutco knives today, 8 years later !!!

    I have heard about acai berry offers for online marketing. I think I may look into it a little more.

  20. Juliana James-Thomas says:

    Roseanne, truly, I've spent the last good while reading this blog from back to front. I believe and accept your sincerity and passion 100%, but you cannot just make the rules conform to fit your purposes, which is what you seem to be doing.

    You CANNOT mention anything to do with the juice that is not listed in MonaVie's literature. Even when talking about yourself or a neighbor or friend, only if it is an expected and typical result can you repeat it. If you think you can play fast and loose with that definition you're wrong.

    As far as all I've read here, the fact your cholesterol was higher at the time you started drinking MonaVie and it was lower after some time when retested, is something we're supposed to rely only on you and the test data to interpret. Is that right? Although you are admittedly a lay person, with no background in nutrition or medicine, we're supposed to count on your representations on something as important as this??

    Uh...no. That's why it's illegal for you or anyone else to say or post those things.

    What if, after a few weeks of drinking MonaVie someone had a pulmonary embolism, a heart attack, or a stroke; would it be rational to say, "That awful, wicked, toxic, MonaVie! It killed poor Manny." Of course not. There's nothing scientific to link one to the other.

    Beyond that, Roseanne, you go much further giving numerous Jane and John Doe-Juicedrinker examples one after another. You know someone who cut their insulin back, another quit all their medication, resolved insomnia, irritable bowel syndrome, fibromyalgia. Then, when you're called out on it you just draw a line in the sand and say you don't think it's a law, or you interpret it in such a way you have no liability if you're not mentioning a specific name or you're talking about your own experiences. Of course, as his spouse you're allowed to talk about your husband's experiences too...

    NOOOOOOO! What part of NO do you not understand?

    Because personal experiences are so susceptible to being exaggerated, misconstrued, misinterpreted, or just not true, the law is very specific. You cannot say them at all.

    I have to ask, though, if what you're saying is true why in the world wouldn't MonaVie commission a study to support those findings? Can you imagine the good they could do not only the masses who are sick and hurting, but the distributors and health care in general? If it's as easy as putting us all on a $20-$40 a week regime don't you think that would be lots less expensive than Medicare E?

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