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	<title>Comments on: Traditional and Roth IRA Contribution Limits and Income Phase Outs</title>
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		<title>By: Raymond</title>
		<link>http://www.moneybluebook.com/traditional-and-roth-ira-contribution-limits-and-income-phase-outs/#comment-21381</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim,

I think you are getting two similar traditional IRA components mixed up. You are confusing "income limits pertaining to the right to contribute to an IRA account at all" to "income limits pertaining to the right to take an IRA deduction". 

There is no income restriction or cap limit to the ability to contribute to an IRA retirement account. However, there is indeed income limitations to one's ability to take an IRA tax deduction. Higher incomes precludes one from enjoying an IRA deduction on one's income tax return.

I made a slight change to the article wording to make it a bit more clear...thanks for your commentary!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim,</p>
<p>I think you are getting two similar traditional IRA components mixed up. You are confusing &#8220;income limits pertaining to the right to contribute to an IRA account at all&#8221; to &#8220;income limits pertaining to the right to take an IRA deduction&#8221;. </p>
<p>There is no income restriction or cap limit to the ability to contribute to an IRA retirement account. However, there is indeed income limitations to one&#8217;s ability to take an IRA tax deduction. Higher incomes precludes one from enjoying an IRA deduction on one&#8217;s income tax return.</p>
<p>I made a slight change to the article wording to make it a bit more clear&#8230;thanks for your commentary!</p>
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		<title>By: kim s.</title>
		<link>http://www.moneybluebook.com/traditional-and-roth-ira-contribution-limits-and-income-phase-outs/#comment-21379</link>
		<dc:creator>kim s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where did you get the Trad. IRA info?  Some of it appears to be wrong regarding IRA income restrictions....

In Item #2 above, you state "While the traditional IRA is available to all with no income restrictions or contribution phaseouts, only the Roth reduces and limits your contribution if your income goes above certain levels."

This is not true.

It is clear from the IRS website at (&lt;a href="http://www.irs.gov/publications/p590/ch01.html#d0e825" target="blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;) that there is certainly is an upper income limit for Trad. IRAs...

From the IRS:
Modified AGI limit for traditional IRA contributions increased. For 2008, if you are covered by a retirement plan at work, your deduction for contributions to a traditional IRA is reduced (phased out) if your modified adjusted gross income (AGI) is: 

*  More than $85,000 but less than $105,000 for a married couple filing a joint return or a qualifying widow(er),
*  More than $53,000 but less than $63,000 for a single individual or head of household, or
*  Less than $10,000 for a married individual filing a separate return.
For 2008, if you either live with your spouse or file a joint return, and your spouse is covered by a retirement plan at work, but you are not, your deduction is phased out if your AGI is more than $159,000 but less than $169,000. If your AGI is $169,000 or more, you cannot take a deduction for contributions to a traditional IRA. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where did you get the Trad. IRA info?  Some of it appears to be wrong regarding IRA income restrictions&#8230;.</p>
<p>In Item #2 above, you state &#8220;While the traditional IRA is available to all with no income restrictions or contribution phaseouts, only the Roth reduces and limits your contribution if your income goes above certain levels.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is not true.</p>
<p>It is clear from the IRS website at (<a href="http://www.irs.gov/publications/p590/ch01.html#d0e825" target="blank" rel="nofollow">link</a>) that there is certainly is an upper income limit for Trad. IRAs&#8230;</p>
<p>From the IRS:<br />
Modified AGI limit for traditional IRA contributions increased. For 2008, if you are covered by a retirement plan at work, your deduction for contributions to a traditional IRA is reduced (phased out) if your modified adjusted gross income (AGI) is: </p>
<p>*  More than $85,000 but less than $105,000 for a married couple filing a joint return or a qualifying widow(er),<br />
*  More than $53,000 but less than $63,000 for a single individual or head of household, or<br />
*  Less than $10,000 for a married individual filing a separate return.<br />
For 2008, if you either live with your spouse or file a joint return, and your spouse is covered by a retirement plan at work, but you are not, your deduction is phased out if your AGI is more than $159,000 but less than $169,000. If your AGI is $169,000 or more, you cannot take a deduction for contributions to a traditional IRA. </p>
<p>What gives?</p>
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		<title>By: T Meyer</title>
		<link>http://www.moneybluebook.com/traditional-and-roth-ira-contribution-limits-and-income-phase-outs/#comment-18979</link>
		<dc:creator>T Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am 58, single and have retirement income that exceeds the Traditional IRA Deductibility threshhold but is below the threshhold at which the Roth IRA contribution phaseout commences.  I'm contemplating taking a parttime job and saving that income for future retirement needs.  Please let me know if I am interpreting the IRA income regulatons correctly:
1.  As long as my modified adjusted gross income is below $99,000, I can contribute my gross (not net) earnings (up to $6,000) from the parttime job to a Roth IRA.  Once my modified adjusted gross income exceeds $114,000, I cannot contribute to a Roth IRA.
2.  Regardless of my modified adjusted gross income, I could contribute up to $6000 in gross (not net) earnings from the parttime job to a Traditional IRA.  I understand that this Traditional IRA contribution would not be deductible.  I'm wondering what the advantage of putting that money into an Traditional IRA rather than another investment option would be.  It seems to me that putting the money into an IRA would have a disadvantage  - no access to the fund without penalty until I'm 59.5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 58, single and have retirement income that exceeds the Traditional IRA Deductibility threshhold but is below the threshhold at which the Roth IRA contribution phaseout commences.  I&#8217;m contemplating taking a parttime job and saving that income for future retirement needs.  Please let me know if I am interpreting the IRA income regulatons correctly:<br />
1.  As long as my modified adjusted gross income is below $99,000, I can contribute my gross (not net) earnings (up to $6,000) from the parttime job to a Roth IRA.  Once my modified adjusted gross income exceeds $114,000, I cannot contribute to a Roth IRA.<br />
2.  Regardless of my modified adjusted gross income, I could contribute up to $6000 in gross (not net) earnings from the parttime job to a Traditional IRA.  I understand that this Traditional IRA contribution would not be deductible.  I&#8217;m wondering what the advantage of putting that money into an Traditional IRA rather than another investment option would be.  It seems to me that putting the money into an IRA would have a disadvantage  - no access to the fund without penalty until I&#8217;m 59.5.</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond</title>
		<link>http://www.moneybluebook.com/traditional-and-roth-ira-contribution-limits-and-income-phase-outs/#comment-11424</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 02:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron,

Once it's past April 15, you can't submit an IRA or Roth contribution for the previous tax year. The extension only applies to IRS late filing penalties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron,</p>
<p>Once it&#8217;s past April 15, you can&#8217;t submit an IRA or Roth contribution for the previous tax year. The extension only applies to IRS late filing penalties.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.moneybluebook.com/traditional-and-roth-ira-contribution-limits-and-income-phase-outs/#comment-11422</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 02:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very informative site thanks. I have a question, if you are one of those people who have filed and extension for 2007 taxes can you still make a contribution for 2007 eventhough it is past April 15th 2008?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very informative site thanks. I have a question, if you are one of those people who have filed and extension for 2007 taxes can you still make a contribution for 2007 eventhough it is past April 15th 2008?</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 17:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my, yes you are correct William. Thanks for pointing out the typo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my, yes you are correct William. Thanks for pointing out the typo!</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.moneybluebook.com/traditional-and-roth-ira-contribution-limits-and-income-phase-outs/#comment-9875</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 15:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"For example, April 15, 2007 is the contribution deadline to make a IRA or Roth contribution towards the 2007 limit.  After that date, all contribution money will go towards the 2008 tax year limit."  Do you mean April 15, 2008?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For example, April 15, 2007 is the contribution deadline to make a IRA or Roth contribution towards the 2007 limit.  After that date, all contribution money will go towards the 2008 tax year limit.&#8221;  Do you mean April 15, 2008?</p>
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		<title>By: Carnival of Personal Finance #147: Q1 Financial Advice Edition &#124; Personal Finance Blog by Money Ning</title>
		<link>http://www.moneybluebook.com/traditional-and-roth-ira-contribution-limits-and-income-phase-outs/#comment-6321</link>
		<dc:creator>Carnival of Personal Finance #147: Q1 Financial Advice Edition &#124; Personal Finance Blog by Money Ning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Raymond from Money Blue Book presents Traditional and Roth IRA Contribution Limits and Income Phase Outs. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Raymond</title>
		<link>http://www.moneybluebook.com/traditional-and-roth-ira-contribution-limits-and-income-phase-outs/#comment-5793</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,


I haven't looked into this in great detail, but I presume brokers and banks that operate Roth accounts do report contributions to the IRS.

Keep in mind that there is a 6% IRS penalty that is imposed on all excess unqualified Roth contributions until the excess is withdrawn and removed. If you had no earned income for the year, you would not be entitled to contribute and the entire amount would be regarded as excess. Thus, I would presume the IRS would keep adding up the 6% penalty charges each year until a time that the sum is large enough for them to come after you to enforce penalty payment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t looked into this in great detail, but I presume brokers and banks that operate Roth accounts do report contributions to the IRS.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that there is a 6% IRS penalty that is imposed on all excess unqualified Roth contributions until the excess is withdrawn and removed. If you had no earned income for the year, you would not be entitled to contribute and the entire amount would be regarded as excess. Thus, I would presume the IRS would keep adding up the 6% penalty charges each year until a time that the sum is large enough for them to come after you to enforce penalty payment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Evlewt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Evlewt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great article. I have a simple question I've been wondering about, though: 

Say a person had earned income in previous years, and contributed to a Roth IRA... but this year had no earned income, for whatever reason. What's to prevent the person from going ahead and contributing to a Roth this year anyway? It's not declared on the 1040 (which would show the earned income problem); who would step in and say "no"? Someone at the time when the Roth is tapped decades later???

I'm sure there's a good argument against the above, but I'm wondering what it is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great article. I have a simple question I&#8217;ve been wondering about, though: </p>
<p>Say a person had earned income in previous years, and contributed to a Roth IRA&#8230; but this year had no earned income, for whatever reason. What&#8217;s to prevent the person from going ahead and contributing to a Roth this year anyway? It&#8217;s not declared on the 1040 (which would show the earned income problem); who would step in and say &#8220;no&#8221;? Someone at the time when the Roth is tapped decades later???</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a good argument against the above, but I&#8217;m wondering what it is!</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond</title>
		<link>http://www.moneybluebook.com/traditional-and-roth-ira-contribution-limits-and-income-phase-outs/#comment-5731</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Panda,

Much of this information can be obtained through the IRS' website, but they don't always compile them into easy to locate tables. 

As for my own IRA, although most of my money's been locked up in other investments, I managed to scrounge up $4000 to contribute towards my 2007 Roth before the deadline. Use it or lose it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Panda,</p>
<p>Much of this information can be obtained through the IRS&#8217; website, but they don&#8217;t always compile them into easy to locate tables. </p>
<p>As for my own IRA, although most of my money&#8217;s been locked up in other investments, I managed to scrounge up $4000 to contribute towards my 2007 Roth before the deadline. Use it or lose it!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.moneybluebook.com/traditional-and-roth-ira-contribution-limits-and-income-phase-outs/#comment-5729</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm going to save this post! It's a great reference guide. Since my husband and I move to another state we won't have 401(k)s to put our money in. We're going to ty and maximize our contributions for our IRAs. I appreciate the work you put in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to save this post! It&#8217;s a great reference guide. Since my husband and I move to another state we won&#8217;t have 401(k)s to put our money in. We&#8217;re going to ty and maximize our contributions for our IRAs. I appreciate the work you put in.</p>
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