Comments on: The 3,000 Mile Oil Change Myth – Save Your Money http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-mile-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/ Personal Finance Beyond Credit Cards and Balance Transfers Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:04:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mike http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-mile-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/comment-page-1/#comment-144859 Mike Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:02:23 +0000 http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-miles-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/#comment-144859 Change your vehicle oil every 3K miles!!! I get free oil changes (I purchase the filter) with both my vehicles from the dealership I buy from. Just after my first oil change on my '08 Grand Cherokee, they changed the oil change interval to 6K miles. So how important was the 3K mile oil change to start with? Obviously the contributing factor was the price of oil as it jumped up about the same time. Change your vehicle oil every 3K miles!!! I get free oil changes (I purchase the filter) with both my vehicles from the dealership I buy from. Just after my first oil change on my ‘08 Grand Cherokee, they changed the oil change interval to 6K miles. So how important was the 3K mile oil change to start with? Obviously the contributing factor was the price of oil as it jumped up about the same time.

]]> By: LubeDealer http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-mile-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/comment-page-1/#comment-142886 LubeDealer Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:53:42 +0000 http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-miles-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/#comment-142886 Symon, thank you for your reply. Just a little info. As for "Special Ordering", I have several Preferred Customers, all average Joes'. (PC Account = Purchasing @ Dealer price). Some live near by, others are as far away as 60 miles but they all purchase their AMSOIL in any of 3 ways. 1; Most simply log into their PC account, place their order (takes only 2 or 3 minutes) then their order arrives at their door via UPS in 24 - 48 hours. 2; They can also call the AMSOIL tool-free order line 3; Some of those close by come to my home & purchase from me. I agree with you, far too many do ignor the other fluids among other things. I am amazed at the number of vehicles I see driving down the road with a half flat tire! My reason for posting info. on AMSOIL is an attempt to help everyone increase fuel economy, not just vehicle longevity. The way the big petro. companies are picking our pockets every time we fuel-up, we all need to get the most mpg possible from every drop of fuel. I hope this info. has been in some way helpful. Symon, thank you for your reply. Just a little info. As for “Special Ordering”, I have several Preferred Customers, all average Joes’. (PC Account = Purchasing @ Dealer price). Some live near by, others are as far away as 60 miles but they all purchase their AMSOIL in any of 3 ways. 1; Most simply log into their PC account, place their order (takes only 2 or 3 minutes) then their order arrives at their door via UPS in 24 – 48 hours. 2; They can also call the AMSOIL tool-free order line 3; Some of those close by come to my home & purchase from me.
I agree with you, far too many do ignor the other fluids among other things. I am amazed at the number of vehicles I see driving down the road with a half flat tire!
My reason for posting info. on AMSOIL is an attempt to help everyone increase fuel economy, not just vehicle longevity. The way the big petro. companies are picking our pockets every time we fuel-up, we all need to get the most mpg possible from every drop of fuel.
I hope this info. has been in some way helpful.

]]> By: Symon http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-mile-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/comment-page-1/#comment-142749 Symon Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:06:56 +0000 http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-miles-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/#comment-142749 @Lubedealer, this is blog for consumers not the pit crew from a Nascar race team. You think an average joe got time to special order his motor oil? No we simply buy motor oil from the local auto store, walmart & if I wanted to at the dealership or internet as well. The point of this blog is if the 3,000 myth was something the Automotive industry made up & if it true or not. I simply back this myth up because overall a consumer should also pay attention to other fluids as well not just your motor oil. For those who said their car didn't experience engine failure after so many years is because Engine block & cylinder head were design to last a long time & it vary by car company but generally speaking they are not suppose to fail after 10+ year of use. We need to understand how combustion works which involve air, fuel,spark etc. Of course if you live in the desert & you suck all that sand into your intake yes they will be engine wear & what not. In addition majority of driver are not hitting 6000 to 8000 rpm to cause excessive heat. Those driver are the one who beat on their engine but at the same time love their cars to death. Then you have your backyward mechanic as they say & then people who don't have a clue where their dipstick is . The point I'm making is " just follow your vehicle maintenance if you want the best out of your car. This blog is simply classifying two type of driver. The Driver who love their car & who will buy the best motor oil money can buy & then the conservative owner who take they car to their local auto mechanic because 3,000 miles & it time for an oil change. It not science , we have better thing to worry about than an oil change. @Lubedealer, this is blog for consumers not the pit crew from a Nascar race team. You think an average joe got time to special order his motor oil? No we simply buy motor oil from the local auto store, walmart & if I wanted to at the dealership or internet as well. The point of this blog is if the 3,000 myth was something the Automotive industry made up & if it true or not. I simply back this myth up because overall a consumer should also pay attention to other fluids as well not just your motor oil. For those who said their car didn’t experience engine failure after so many years is because Engine block & cylinder head were design to last a long time & it vary by car company but generally speaking they are not suppose to fail after 10+ year of use. We need to understand how combustion works which involve air, fuel,spark etc. Of course if you live in the desert & you suck all that sand into your intake yes they will be engine wear & what not. In addition majority of driver are not hitting 6000 to 8000 rpm to cause excessive heat. Those driver are the one who beat on their engine but at the same time love their cars to death. Then you have your backyward mechanic as they say & then people who don’t have a clue where their dipstick is . The point I’m making is ” just follow your vehicle maintenance if you want the best out of your car. This blog is simply classifying two type of driver. The Driver who love their car & who will buy the best motor oil money can buy & then the conservative owner who take they car to their local auto mechanic because 3,000 miles & it time for an oil change. It not science , we have better thing to worry about than an oil change.

]]> By: The Equalizer http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-mile-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/comment-page-1/#comment-142712 The Equalizer Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:43:42 +0000 http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-miles-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/#comment-142712 For those who are interested, here is the Amsoil link w/o my highlights. I didn't see any other comparison tests with their other oils. http://www.amsoil.com/performancetests/APIComparativeOilTest.aspx At over $8/qt, it should perform well. For those who are interested, here is the Amsoil link w/o my highlights. I didn’t see any other comparison tests with their other oils.
http://www.amsoil.com/performancetests/APIComparativeOilTest.aspx
At over $8/qt, it should perform well.

]]> By: The Equalizer http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-mile-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/comment-page-1/#comment-142709 The Equalizer Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:28:13 +0000 http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-miles-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/#comment-142709 @LubeDealer: Please quit making a fool of yourself and spoiling this thread. The link I posted came directly from Amsoil's website. All I did was circle a few things in red. If you spent 2 days "researching" this then you need to get a life. I have maintained that Amsoil makes fine products, but questioned the value of the 4-ball wear test for motor oil apps. That is all...o.k? @LubeDealer: Please quit making a fool of yourself and spoiling this thread. The link I posted came directly from Amsoil’s website. All I did was circle a few things in red. If you spent 2 days “researching” this then you need to get a life. I have maintained that Amsoil makes fine products, but questioned the value of the 4-ball wear test for motor oil apps. That is all…o.k?

]]> By: LubeDealer http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-mile-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/comment-page-1/#comment-142637 LubeDealer Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:48:12 +0000 http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-miles-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/#comment-142637 TO: Everyone, I have spent the last two days researching the "test chart" shown on a link posted by an indiviual. The chart shown on that link is FRAUDULENT. (Likely made on home PC using Adobe or similar program). To see the GENUINE chart, go to www.amsoil.com then scroll down to ATM (4th oil down) then "information", then "stacks up to Competition". AMSOIL Inc. manufactures several grades of Gasoline & Diesel Oils & ATM is one of our lesser grade Synthetics for those who desire to run a quilty Synthetic at a lower cost. But it still out performs the competition. To get the TRUE facts on all AMSOIL Products, see my Web-site: http://www.lubedealer.com/worldsfinestsynthetics or contact me: amsoilcertified@yahoo.com or dabbssd@aol.com TO: Everyone,
I have spent the last two days researching the “test chart” shown on a link posted by an indiviual. The chart shown on that link is FRAUDULENT. (Likely made on home PC using Adobe or similar program). To see the GENUINE chart, go to http://www.amsoil.com then scroll down to ATM (4th oil down) then “information”, then “stacks up to Competition”.
AMSOIL Inc. manufactures several grades of Gasoline & Diesel Oils & ATM is one of our lesser grade Synthetics for those who desire to run a quilty Synthetic at a lower cost. But it still out performs the competition.
To get the TRUE facts on all AMSOIL Products, see my Web-site: http://www.lubedealer.com/worldsfinestsynthetics or contact me: amsoilcertified@yahoo.com or dabbssd@aol.com

]]> By: James C Trader http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-mile-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/comment-page-1/#comment-141951 James C Trader Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:56:25 +0000 http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-miles-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/#comment-141951 I DO change oil---within 4000 miles 95% of the time is my point BUT---I do use name brand Dino oil as they are calling them--NOT Synthetics. Most times I'd say 3500-3700 miles but have went out to close to 5000 miles when weather or me being sick held me up. Pennzoil--Castrol--Quaker State--Motorcraft---Havoline Valvoline---all these I've used back and forth thru the years----Just here the past year or so I been using Motorcrafts Synthetic blend--just because I get it "not much" over the cost of std oils--IF--it goes up much then I'll be right back with std oils again--just how it is! I DO change oil—within 4000 miles 95% of the time is my point BUT—I do use name brand Dino oil as they are calling them–NOT Synthetics. Most times I’d say 3500-3700 miles but have went out to close to 5000 miles when weather or me being sick held me up. Pennzoil–Castrol–Quaker State–Motorcraft—Havoline Valvoline—all these I’ve used back and forth thru the years—-Just here the past year or so I been using Motorcrafts Synthetic blend–just because I get it “not much” over the cost of std oils–IF–it goes up much then I’ll be right back with std oils again–just how it is!

]]> By: Name http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-mile-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/comment-page-1/#comment-141576 Name Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:05:27 +0000 http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-miles-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/#comment-141576 James C Trader Says: February 25th, 2010 at 8:04 am "all the oils I’ve used have been GOOD ENOUGH to wear the vehicle out before the engines went out– all my life—Thats Good enough!" James, You Da Man! I've listened to this argument go around since the 80's, and have always taken the position that too much time, effort, and money are spent on oil changes. I can fill pages with why I think that is so, but you killed the whole argument in one short statement. Of all the machines that I have run into the ground over the years, (literally well over 1 million miles with my foot on the gas pedal) I've lost only one to total engine failure, and that was my fault. Tried to stretch a bad radiator too far and paid the price. James C Trader Says:
February 25th, 2010 at 8:04 am
“all the oils I’ve used have been GOOD ENOUGH to wear the vehicle out before the engines went out– all my life—Thats Good enough!”

James, You Da Man! I’ve listened to this argument go around since the 80’s, and have always taken the position that too much time, effort, and money are spent on oil changes. I can fill pages with why I think that is so, but you killed the whole argument in one short statement.

Of all the machines that I have run into the ground over the years, (literally well over 1 million miles with my foot on the gas pedal) I’ve lost only one to total engine failure, and that was my fault. Tried to stretch a bad radiator too far and paid the price.

]]> By: James C Trader http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-mile-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/comment-page-1/#comment-141358 James C Trader Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:04:16 +0000 http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-miles-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/#comment-141358 Me---Do I believe synthetics are better than reg oils--yes----ANY--of them have higher performance stats than ANY Dino oils as far as I can see from ALL info available-----Me--I drive avg vehicles--Chevys--Fords Mopar etc-from 18000 -about 38ooo dollar ranges and don't drive here recently just because its at a "decent cost" I been using Motorcrafts Synthetic Blend--I as always will stay somewhere between about 3500 and 4500 mile change limits and have NEVER used full synthetics--of any kind in my auto engines--and have NEVER had ANY lubrication related failures. Years ago I had a Mustang II and it started cutting out some--a Mecahinc THOUGHT it was from overhead cam wear that they said was typical but when they dug into the problem---I stopped by to see what was what and the top of that engine was so clean I thought they done the cam job and hadn't put the valvecovers on yet--he asked me---what KIND of oil do you use? I said Quote---WHat ever's on sale that is of a namebrand oil and change it between 3000-4000 miles the probelm actually was---a float in the carb soaked up fuel and was heavy--flooding the engine some. Now I do have a Honda 7 1/2HP outboard and a 8HP snow blower that SINCE they once use 1 Qt of oil---I use a full synthetic cause 1 qt at high cost ain't bad and when I fire these engines up----they are at full throttle when I use them plus I don't change them often at all! I had an F250 Truck for over 20yrs--over a quarter million miles on it---used name brand DINO oils as you all call them I live in rural West Virginia and spend some but not alot of driving on open roads--usually hilly and curvey roads--about 1/2 are short trips Offroad hunting and fishing--to work and errands etc like most people. I've NEVER spent 45 bucks on ANY oil change--even if I change oil just 3 times a yr and maybe go over what a synthetic change would do over that time-----I have CLEAN dino oil and end up filtering with a CLEAN filter thruout that year 3 times--sometimes more. Do I believe Synthetics are better---yes for extreme conditions over the life of its use-----am I willing to pay the extra it will be--NOPE> Call me cheap but---NEVER---EVER in my life have I had ANY oil related failures in ANYTHING PERIOD! I usually run the wheels off what I have from trucks and cars to Lawnmowers I end up usually with more life outta what I have than about anyone I know cause I maintain them. My labratory has been testing things in the real world and my engines haven't failed yet. Maybe if I had a Porshe or something like that ---I'd stay with Synthetics---then again "if you can't afford" the synthetic--or the insurance--or the type tires true performance autos may need----Then you probably can't afford one to begin with! I respect the fact that as in anything else---some oils are better than others---but in all reality---all the oils I've used have been GOOD ENOUGH to wear the vehicle out before the engines went out-- all my life---Thats Good enough! Me—Do I believe synthetics are better than reg oils–yes—-ANY–of them have higher performance stats than ANY Dino oils as far as I can see from ALL info available—–Me–I drive avg vehicles–Chevys–Fords Mopar etc-from 18000 -about 38ooo dollar ranges and don’t drive here recently just because its at a “decent cost” I been using Motorcrafts Synthetic Blend–I as always will stay somewhere between about 3500 and 4500 mile change limits and have NEVER used full synthetics–of any kind in my auto engines–and have NEVER had ANY lubrication related failures. Years ago I had a Mustang II and it started cutting out some–a Mecahinc THOUGHT it was from overhead cam wear that they said was typical but when they dug into the problem—I stopped by to see what was what and the top of that engine was so clean I thought they done the cam job and hadn’t put the valvecovers on yet–he asked me—what KIND of oil do you use? I said Quote—WHat ever’s on sale that is of a namebrand oil and change it between 3000-4000 miles the probelm actually was—a float in the carb soaked up fuel and was heavy–flooding the engine some. Now I do have a Honda 7 1/2HP outboard and a 8HP snow blower that SINCE they once use 1 Qt of oil—I use a full synthetic cause 1 qt at high cost ain’t bad and when I fire these engines up—-they are at full throttle when I use them plus I don’t change them often at all! I had an F250 Truck for over 20yrs–over a quarter million miles on it—used name brand DINO oils as you all call them I live in rural West Virginia and spend some but not alot of driving on open roads–usually hilly and curvey roads–about 1/2 are short trips Offroad hunting and fishing–to work and errands etc like most people. I’ve NEVER spent 45 bucks on ANY oil change–even if I change oil just 3 times a yr and maybe go over what a synthetic change would do over that time—–I have CLEAN dino oil and end up filtering with a CLEAN filter thruout that year 3 times–sometimes more. Do I believe Synthetics are better—yes for extreme conditions over the life of its use—–am I willing to pay the extra it will be–NOPE>
Call me cheap but—NEVER—EVER in my life have I had ANY oil related failures in ANYTHING PERIOD! I usually run the wheels off what I have from trucks and cars to Lawnmowers I end up usually with more life outta what I have than about anyone I know cause I maintain them. My labratory has been testing things in the real world and my engines haven’t failed yet. Maybe if I had a Porshe or something like that —I’d stay with Synthetics—then again “if you can’t afford” the synthetic–or the insurance–or the type tires true performance autos may need—-Then you probably can’t afford one to begin with! I respect the fact that as in anything else—some oils are better than others—but in all reality—all the oils I’ve used have been GOOD ENOUGH to wear the vehicle out before the engines went out– all my life—Thats Good enough!

]]> By: LubeDealer http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-mile-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/comment-page-1/#comment-140976 LubeDealer Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:09:25 +0000 http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-miles-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/#comment-140976 Equalizer, Excuse me, but 1; the facts I'm posting ARE NOT from AMSOIL! They ARE in fact test results from INDEPENDENT testing labs, who don't care WHICH brand/company comes out on top, only that their results & data are accurate. 2; AMSOILs' Motor Oils along with AMSOIL Gear Lubes, Greases, Trans. Fluid, Hydraulic Oil etc. ARE Servere Service/Extreme Pressure. 3; Mobil 1 Extended Protection DOES NOT equal AMSOILS' Specs. & Motorcraft "Dino oil" as you call it is LIGHT YEARS away/inferior. THERE IS NO PETRO. OIL ON EARTH LIKE YOU CLAIM & DEFINITELY does NOT match AMSOIL, NOT EVEN CLOSE!! That's an boldfaced LIE!! 4; It is plain to see that you're just a argumentative, self-proclaimed know-it all & A LIER who makes up your own specs. Truth is, I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU PUT IN YOUR VEHICLES, YOU CAN FILL THEIR CRANKCASES WITH MUD FOR ALL I CARE, I'M FINISHED WITH YOU, YOU'RE NOT WORTH MY TIME AND YOU'RE REALLY PISSING ME OFF!!! Equalizer,
Excuse me, but 1; the facts I’m posting ARE NOT from AMSOIL! They ARE in fact test results from INDEPENDENT testing labs, who don’t care WHICH brand/company comes out on top, only that their results & data are accurate. 2; AMSOILs’ Motor Oils along with AMSOIL Gear Lubes, Greases, Trans. Fluid, Hydraulic Oil etc. ARE Servere Service/Extreme Pressure. 3; Mobil 1 Extended Protection DOES NOT equal AMSOILS’ Specs. & Motorcraft “Dino oil” as you call it is LIGHT YEARS away/inferior. THERE IS NO PETRO. OIL ON EARTH LIKE YOU CLAIM & DEFINITELY does NOT match AMSOIL, NOT EVEN CLOSE!! That’s an boldfaced LIE!! 4; It is plain to see that you’re just a argumentative, self-proclaimed know-it all & A LIER who makes up your own specs. Truth is, I DON’T CARE WHAT YOU PUT IN YOUR VEHICLES, YOU CAN FILL THEIR CRANKCASES WITH MUD FOR ALL I CARE, I’M FINISHED WITH YOU, YOU’RE NOT WORTH MY TIME AND YOU’RE REALLY PISSING ME OFF!!!

]]> By: TheEqualizer http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-mile-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/comment-page-1/#comment-140939 TheEqualizer Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:52:57 +0000 http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-miles-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/#comment-140939 @LubeDealer: Your "facts" are provided to you by Amsoil using their tests, they are not performed by an independent lab. Regarding "my engine", I pulled the valve covers and found no "sludge" whatsoever after running Castrol GTX for 100K miles. That said, I believe in the superior properties of synthetics whether they be Amsoil, Mobil, etc. I have Amsoil gear oil in the differential of my Infiniti! I am not an engineer, but I do know that the 4-ball wear test (which used to be highly touted by Amsoil) was designed for EP (extreme pressure) applications such as gear oils and grease. I discussed this once with a Timken Bearing Co. mechanical engineer. He said that using the test for motor oil applications was dubious at best and deceptive at worst. Doesn't matter because Amsoil's latest 4-ball test shows that Mobil 1 Extended Protection is right there with you...heck Motorcraft Dino oil matches you! http://imm.io/6cp I can get a 5 qt jug of Mobil 1 EP 5w-30 for $25 at Wal-Mart. I usually run a Mobil 1 oil filter. My last oil analysis was done using the above for 15K miles in a 2002 Camry 4-cyl with 80K miles. They said I could have run another 3-4K miles with no ill effects. There is a law in Economics referred to as "The Law of Diminishing Returns"...look it up. @LubeDealer:
Your “facts” are provided to you by Amsoil using their tests, they are not performed by an independent lab.
Regarding “my engine”, I pulled the valve covers and found no “sludge” whatsoever after running Castrol GTX for 100K miles. That said, I believe in the superior properties of synthetics whether they be Amsoil, Mobil, etc.
I have Amsoil gear oil in the differential of my Infiniti!
I am not an engineer, but I do know that the 4-ball wear test (which used to be highly touted by Amsoil) was designed for EP (extreme pressure) applications such as gear oils and grease. I discussed this once with a Timken Bearing Co. mechanical engineer. He said that using the test for motor oil applications was dubious at best and deceptive at worst. Doesn’t matter because Amsoil’s latest 4-ball test shows that Mobil 1 Extended Protection is right there with you…heck Motorcraft Dino oil matches you!
http://imm.io/6cp
I can get a 5 qt jug of Mobil 1 EP 5w-30 for $25 at Wal-Mart. I usually run a Mobil 1 oil filter.
My last oil analysis was done using the above for 15K miles in a 2002 Camry 4-cyl with 80K miles. They said I could have run another 3-4K miles with no ill effects.

There is a law in Economics referred to as “The Law of Diminishing Returns”…look it up.

]]> By: LubeDealer http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-mile-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/comment-page-1/#comment-140689 LubeDealer Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:03:16 +0000 http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-miles-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/#comment-140689 I see I made another typo, I mean ASTM, sorry. I see I made another typo, I mean ASTM, sorry.

]]> By: LubeDealer http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-mile-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/comment-page-1/#comment-140688 LubeDealer Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:59:28 +0000 http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-miles-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/#comment-140688 TO: Equalizer, I'm not here to argue with you, only to educate those who desire to take the BEST care of their vehicles. As for having a "cult-like fanaticism", I see nothing of the sort in my stating FACTS. I still have the test results brochure showing the superiority of AMSOIL over Mobil 1. As to your engine, it doesn't take very long for Petro. oils to gum up an engine, no conv. oil of any brand is free of waxes etc. so in very short time/few miles after the engine has reached normal running temp. deposites are already forming. (But maybe your engine wasn't sludged up yet, if so, great! But would it harm anything to do a flush to be sure?) Also, FYI, the 4-ball wear test IS a legitimate test. All of the independent testing labs use it! The API for example. Or do you think you know more than mechanical engineers, ATSM professionals etc.? You quit using AMSOIL? OK, it's your loss, but I don't believe for a second that it is due to your opinion of me or any other Dealer. In any case, to each his own, I'm still here to assist everyone else, all they need do is to contact me. TO: Equalizer, I’m not here to argue with you, only to educate those who desire to take the BEST care of their vehicles. As for having a “cult-like fanaticism”, I see nothing of the sort in my stating FACTS. I still have the test results brochure showing the superiority of AMSOIL over Mobil 1. As to your engine, it doesn’t take very long for Petro. oils to gum up an engine, no conv. oil of any brand is free of waxes etc. so in very short time/few miles after the engine has reached normal running temp. deposites are already forming. (But maybe your engine wasn’t sludged up yet, if so, great! But would it harm anything to do a flush to be sure?) Also, FYI, the 4-ball wear test IS a legitimate test. All of the independent testing labs use it! The API for example. Or do you think you know more than mechanical engineers, ATSM professionals etc.? You quit using AMSOIL? OK, it’s your loss, but I don’t believe for a second that it is due to your opinion of me or any other Dealer. In any case, to each his own, I’m still here to assist everyone else, all they need do is to contact me.

]]> By: TheEqualizer http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-mile-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/comment-page-1/#comment-140653 TheEqualizer Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:58:33 +0000 http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-miles-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/#comment-140653 @LubeDealer...people like you are THE reason I quit using Amsoil products, which as I stated before, are very fine products. You are the problem with your cult-like fanaticism. How do you know if there was any "sludge" and/or contaminants in my engine...I never told you how many miles were on the motor. Also, if you're going to dismiss your competition, spell Mobil 1 properly...you might have more credibility. Also, don't start spouting 4-ball wear test results because they are NOT a legitimate test for motor oils. BTW, there are Amsoil reps out there who aren't so vitriolic. @LubeDealer…people like you are THE reason I quit using Amsoil products, which as I stated before, are very fine products. You are the problem with your cult-like fanaticism. How do you know if there was any “sludge” and/or contaminants in my engine…I never told you how many miles were on the motor.

Also, if you’re going to dismiss your competition, spell Mobil 1 properly…you might have more credibility. Also, don’t start spouting 4-ball wear test results because they are NOT a legitimate test for motor oils.

BTW, there are Amsoil reps out there who aren’t so vitriolic.

]]> By: LubeDealer http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-mile-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/comment-page-1/#comment-140579 LubeDealer Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:28:06 +0000 http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-miles-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/#comment-140579 I have been a Lifetime/Contracting AMSOIL Dealer since 1985 & T-1 Certified since 2005. The following are the facts: TO: JLS, Running AMSOIL [full-flow] Oil Filters is indeed the 2nd most efficent way to filter your oil. AMSOIL By-Pass Filtration System is THE MOST efficent of all. But I can not understand why you settle for running an inferior oil like Mobile 1. AMSOIL BEATS Mobile 1! TO: Chris, are you by any chance an AMSOIL Dealer? You listed AMSOIL 5W-30 as 24K. It's 25K for most AMSOIL Motor Oils & 25K for AMSOIL Oil Filters, 35K for AMSOIL 0W-30 & 7,500 miles for AMSOIL XL Motor Oils. TO: TheEqualizer, While you "converted" to Synthetic oil without flushing, it is NOT a good idea. In fact, I will not install AMSOIL in a customers vehicle without first flushing with AMSOIL Engine Flush. Do you even have a clue as to how much sludge & other contaminants are left as a by-product of petro. oil?! You never have fully benefitted from the use of Synthetics by installing them in filthy engines!! Anyone with questions may contact me: amsoilcertified@yahoo.com or dabbssd@aol.com or see my Web site:http://www.lubedealer.com/worldsfinestsynthetics I have been a Lifetime/Contracting AMSOIL Dealer since 1985 & T-1 Certified since 2005. The following are the facts:
TO: JLS, Running AMSOIL [full-flow] Oil Filters is indeed the 2nd most efficent way to filter your oil. AMSOIL By-Pass Filtration System is THE MOST efficent of all. But I can not understand why you settle for running an inferior oil like Mobile 1. AMSOIL BEATS Mobile 1!
TO: Chris, are you by any chance an AMSOIL Dealer? You listed AMSOIL 5W-30 as 24K. It’s 25K for most AMSOIL Motor Oils & 25K for AMSOIL Oil Filters, 35K for AMSOIL 0W-30 & 7,500 miles for AMSOIL XL Motor Oils.
TO: TheEqualizer, While you “converted” to Synthetic oil without flushing, it is NOT a good idea. In fact, I will not install AMSOIL in a customers vehicle without first flushing with AMSOIL Engine Flush. Do you even have a clue as to how much sludge & other contaminants are left as a by-product of petro. oil?! You never have fully benefitted from the use of Synthetics by installing them in filthy engines!!
Anyone with questions may contact me: amsoilcertified@yahoo.com or dabbssd@aol.com or see my Web site:http://www.lubedealer.com/worldsfinestsynthetics

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