Comments on: How I Got Scammed By a Seller On Alibaba

By: Safa

Safa — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:04:14 +0000

Hello Raymond and All,

Thank you so much Raymond for your Article , I was and still planning to start my small business but now I do not know how to find a supplier for my stuff ?
I ‘m planning to sell simple stuff that are cheap not like PS3 or GPS … etc
my stuff are accessories , mirrors but in special designs …
Can anybody help me please , should I use Alibaba or not ?
I have contact people from China ,but we did not reach the money issues yet . I just sent them pictures of my desgins . I need answer please I do not have any job and I want to strat my business for LIVING basically and hope that God is going to help me to support my family …
I think I got emotional because I had big dreams on Alibaba thing

Thanks a lot

By: Ahmed

Ahmed — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:28:40 +0000

Hi there .. I’m really thank you for your experience , it is very helpful ..

I’m starting my small business in PS3 games only and I was looking for supplier, I thought that Alibaba is good .. but

Now I’ll not gona use it or think about it any more !!

but the Question is where we can find a dealer or a supplier for our small business !! it’s a big problem …

any recommendation ?

and thanks for your shearing

By: Raymond

Raymond — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:34:50 +0000

Anyellow,

Yeah… Internet scammers are everywhere and usually if some deal sounds too good to be true, it almost always is.

In response to your other question about whether Americans have a conscience about human rights issues and poor working conditions in other countries that manufacture the products we use. Well we most certainly do. Our federal government does try to exert a democratic influence on third world and second world nations to improve standards but we can only do so much. At some point, you will yourselves will need to rise up against the Communist Chinese dictators in a violent or perhaps peaceful revolution and overthrow them. Same goes for any third world country where its citizens demand better worker’s rights.

But in terms of staging a boycott of such products, unfortunately, we Americans are addicted to cheap Chinese products and will probably continue to use them gladly for the foreseeable future. That’s the truth and reality.

By: Anyellow

Anyellow — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:19:29 +0000

I am quite impressed with all these terrible story above, and I really want to thank Raymond to do this job, I am a Chinese and I have a question? Chinese People always work over time for the overseas country like USA, EUROPEAN COUNTRIES etc. When you people buy the textile products and the other labor integration products , do you guys ever have conscience for our human rights or our living standard? China Domestic Manufacture are desperate to Alibaba, things like that are not a real revolution but a cheating. As you can see, real supplier don’t get customer easy, and fake scamer can even rip the real customer off. What an great easiest way to do business!

By: Mr. 200

Mr. 200 — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:09:26 +0000

I’m impressed by you being able to write about it like this. Usually people feel too ashamed to even think about it.

By: Bogdan

Bogdan — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:56:54 +0000

Before this they offered my IPHONE 3GS 32GB for 270USD

By: Bogdan

Bogdan — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:39:07 +0000

Look at this guys.

I wanted to buy some Iphones from a Chinese company(my bad) and I event wanted to send the money but I searched the net and found this great blog and after dat had a instant message conversation on Alibaba…take a look at the result,the company name is:Hefei Xinlongyu Trade Co., Ltd and the SCAMERS Bank data is:

his is our payment:
telegraphic transfer:
Beneficiary institution: bank of china
Swift code: bkchcnbj780
Beneficiary Name: dajun zhang
beneficiary’s account: 495480020015351
address: hefei city , anhui province, china
—————————————————–

Caradaica Nicolae: Hello (2009-10-25 13:26:03)

Caradaica Nicolae: What is your price for Iphone 3g 8Gb (2009-10-25 13:26:16)

weiwei herm: 240$ (2009-10-25 13:26:50)
Caradaica Nicolae: Please tell me what are your bussines hours (2009-10-25 13:27:53)

weiwei herm: 24hours (2009-10-25 13:28:02)
Caradaica Nicolae: I will send a friend to you to pick up the phone (2009-10-25 13:28:08)

weiwei herm: no (2009-10-25 13:28:28)

weiwei herm: our iphone is in usa (2009-10-25 13:28:33)

Caradaica Nicolae: so you send it form the USA (2009-10-25 13:28:53)

Caradaica Nicolae: ? (2009-10-25 13:29:09)

weiwei herm: yes (2009-10-25 13:29:07)

Caradaica Nicolae: what city (2009-10-25 13:29:14)

Caradaica Nicolae: I have many bussines partners in the USA
also (2009-10-25 13:29:23)

weiwei herm: ny (2009-10-25 13:29:28)

Caradaica Nicolae: do you have an address (2009-10-25 13:29:39)

weiwei herm: yes (2009-10-25 13:29:45)

Caradaica Nicolae: please give it to me and I will find somebody to pick up the phone (2009-10-25 13:30:04)

weiwei herm: ok,fuck u (2009-10-25 13:30:10)

Caradaica Nicolae: SCAMER (2009-10-25 13:30:19)

weiwei herm: fuck u (2009-10-25 13:30:24)

weiwei herm: shit (2009-10-25 13:30:26)

Caradaica Nicolae: (2009-10-25 13:30:29)

Caradaica Nicolae: why are you Scamming people (2009-10-25 13:30:42)

Caradaica Nicolae: are you not afraid that God will punish you (2009-10-25 13:30:54)

Caradaica Nicolae: it’s just not good Karma (2009-10-25 13:31:03)

Caradaica Nicolae: ok I whish for you to live in interesting times (2009-10-25 13:31:17)

Caradaica Nicolae: bye (2009-10-25 13:31:19)

By: elmjay

elmjay — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:19:01 +0000

Could someone please tell me if its okay to purchase bath & body products from China because I almost did but after reading your comments I am on hold for now.

elmjay

By: Joel

Joel — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:22:28 +0000

omg, I knew that the seller i was talking to on ebay had a very good deal on Apple Ipod touchs… It was either the ipods were not genuine, or the seller was fraud. =/

& Googling the name “karen stalker” from Cleveland, OH, led me to this page, & Thanks Everyone for the warning… Currently this scammer is operating under the username “dennyroyaltechnology” always sending messages from his/her Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Yes, Indeed very smooth communication, likeable and friendly, persuading to buy more… and insisted that their paypal account was hacked into and it cannot be used, so a bank wire transfer payment site such as western union must be used, and this is not eligible for Ebay or Paypal’s buyer protection. =(

I will know better now,& Thanks for the warning, Guys!

By: Momiji

Momiji — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:03:56 +0000

Hi Deviansyah,

Actually, 10,000 euros is worth about $15,000. So this is more than what you supposedly make in a month. Also, where is “here”, where you are from, exactly?

By: DEVIANSYAH

DEVIANSYAH — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:31:59 +0000

To anyone reading this blog. PLEASE READ AND THINK WHAT YOU HAVE TO THINK. I DON’T GIVE A SHIT. You may write down anything about me. GO HEAD. STILL CANNOT PROOF ANYTHING THAT I DID THAT. It’s just a silly comments, from silly people.

By: DEVIANSYAH

DEVIANSYAH — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:29:08 +0000

Hello Toni. Really appreciate with your concerned. After reading your comments, it makes me wonder, that you’re nothing but a shit. My English is never be perfect, as I’m not an Englishman.

Talking about £10,000, do you really think that is big amount of money??? Hmm…i guess we have such different perception of “BIG” money. But i just happy with my monthly sales, which around $5.000 to $10.000

Track me down??? I’m here and not going anywhere. Come and get me then.

By: TONI

TONI — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:33:57 +0000

I googled his name and found this.. if this helps track him down (IF TRUE I CANT GUARANTEE)

http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/193704/SCAMMER_Deviansyah_Devi_or_Kurnia_Indonesia_.htm?message=383351

”
Replying to [makika]:
to buy iPod NANO4G I paid deposit 15% to him via WUB(Western Union Bank) and he transfered (also via WUB) to UK supplier, name Rudy Chen & company name DELTA ONE according to him . However no ship from UK and he said that I don’t know what happened. It looks like UK suppier was gone. Buyt actually I don’ t think. I have pass port photo with his name DEVIANSJAH MANOCH, passport no. 777772, date of birth 23 Dec 1977, Jakarta, also driving license no. 711012057644. Hic comany name is TELKOMINDO. now I will meet him at my hotel here Jakarta …….. must make sure all the evidence, including UK Mr. Rudy Chen…..
Need good suggestion how take back money from him. Even police catch him, he will pay money as corruption…… ”

By: Matthew

Matthew — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:45:33 +0000

My bank recommended that I disable international funds transfers to improve security. I work only with int’l suppliers that offer PayPal as a payment option. It’s a bit more expensive, but the security makes it totally worthwhile.

By: TONI

TONI — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:06:27 +0000

Dev if you are truly an honest business man, please meet me in the the UK, I have a mobile phone business. I will purchase in excess of 50 items off you. We can arrange to meet in a busy city centre where nothing will happen. Once I am satisfied with the products, I WILL 100% HELP YOU CLEAR YOUR NAME! There is a lot of money in it for you Dev, so I ask you again, are you willing to travel with in excess of £10,000 worth or products?