Latest responses to “How I Got Scammed By a Seller On Alibaba” Copyright 2013, MoneyBlueBook.com 15596022 2013-05-09T09:56:04-07:00 namerequired A couple of telltale sign to indicate the deal is a scam. 1. Price too good to be true. 2. Wire Transfer, TT, or Bank in as payment method, rejects other payment method such as Paypal (they will give a lot of reason to not use Paypal) 3. Deal is posted on untrusted platform, that does not have customer protection mechanism, or dedicated customer support. 4. Do a WHOIS query website and their creation date is recent. 469840 2011-02-08T17:11:10-08:00 shane MS HONEY FU/HK JYM ELECTRONICS CO.LTD is a scum (doubt its a real name) Beware! interesting fact: if you search for laptops from HK 99% different companies adresses are listed in the same adress on alibaba.com Shame on You Ms FU!!!! 416550 2011-01-20T12:28:47-08:00 Jon There maybe good reasons why someone lives in Padang, but opens a bank account on a different island, two hours flying time away, in Jakarta. I can't think of any though. Suspicion is aroused. A Google maps search can find legitimate business adresses. 416500 2011-01-17T20:50:08-08:00 Bud Having read all your scams the same is very true here . Having order a trike from Kunming Clustering Way Electronics Technology and taking the precautionary steps of doing it through a International Wire Transfer to the Bank of China they still screwed me out of the $1159 for it. All seemed well and they sent me the shipping details ( all false ) but then sent me to the GMSC Shahat Shipping lines who tried to get me for another $400 for Insurance. I have had the US Maritime Commissioner verify that all this shipping stuff was false but could do nothing more than that for me.I have had the FBI-FTC-FCC-OIG- Chinese Consulate who have done nothing even when knowing these are scammers. So my advice is to NEVER ORDER ANYTHING FROM CHINA UNLESS THEY WILL TAKE AN ESCROW ACCOUNT TO BE RELEASED WHEN YOU RECEIVE THE GOODS. That is how E-Bay protects you. I now have it in the hands of Interpol as a last resort. I understand that Alibaba is own by a Chines Gentlemen so does that give you a clue. 416560 2010-12-23T19:20:57-08:00 Keith I bought or rather l was led to believe l bought a new Minelab Glod Detector last week around the 15th December 2010. The company name is BINTANG DETECTOR INC and the people involved are Mr stepan andreas or Andy Christian (if thats his real name). I transfered us$1250 into an account with the following details: BANK NAME : Bank Negara Indonesia Account Number : Andy Christian Account Number : 0117448928 IBAN/SwiftCode :BNINIDJA Bank Branch : Kcu Sudirman City : Jakarta Country : Indonesia Message IP Address:114.124.201.* Address: JI Pasar Baru II 5I,Padang,25162,Indonesia Please let me know how l can get my money back. I have just found out they used a fake website for me to track the package that was meant to be delivered to South Africa. Please warn other buyers of this company or take it away from the site altogether 416540 2010-12-08T09:56:38-08:00 Sam Oh my god! This has been the most entertaining blog I've ever read! I've literally been here for HOURS reading all this stuff from start to finish. However I should clarify, while yes it's been extremely entertaining (this could actually make a decent book!), I feel deep sympathy for people who have been swindled by this Devian bastard. The best part of it all is, as you can see him come in under one different name after the other, first pretending to be other people saying they got a good deal then after giving up on that idea coming on again as himself (even though the alter-egos resurface now and again), you can always tell it's him. It's so obvious, he has the most unique and telling form of broken English, it's as good as a fingerprint. But as I was saying, the BEST bit is, as he comes on over and over again throughout the YEARS (this is over 3 years old now!) you can almost taste his desperation as this blog bit by bit destroys his scamming activities. Even eventually admitting that he scammed Raymond. I applaud you Raymond. You have definately gotten at least a partial revenge (although I agree with the much earlier post saying this guy needs to be murdered (even I'd donate a few bob to the hitman fund and he hasn't even ripped me off!)). If you even google Alibaba you end up being led here. You quashed any chance of him ever achieving any major success with his deviant, criminal theivery. It's so funny and awesome. I love seeing justice at work! HE thinks he's so much smarter that everyone else but he's such a total fool! And the fact that he doesn't realise that EVERYONE can see through his bullshit lies like a pane of glass is hilarious! I love it! Man you guys got him wrapped up real good. I hope he's starving on his $75 a month from the Cybercafe now that Raymond and Co. wrecked his evil, criminal games. What a douche. It just goes to show... Karma ALWAYS catches up. I'm sure he's got a lot worse coming his way. I can imagine the horror and heartbreak everyone suffered when he stole their hard-earned money. The reason I found this blog is because I'm in the same boat trying to save to outlay on some initial stock to try and start a small business. Here we are trying to improve our lot in life and that CUNT (I know that's an awful word but if anyone deserves it it's Devian) steals it from us! And now we're back at square one and buttsore for our efforts. He deserves death. Seriously. And the damage he's doing to honest hardworking Indonesians, it's morally bankrupt to put it mildly. Anyway, I realis that this blog has slowed significantly since February this year and most of the regulars have floated off back to their regular lives, but I'll ask anyway. I read one report on here of a woman getting shafted on Alibaba over shoes and that's the closest to my market (women's apparel). Is that indicative of the Chinese apparel market on Alibaba? I know 99.9% of people on here got done with electronics. Is it worth investigating? I can guarentee that this blog is a god-send for someone in my position. I have learnt so much on the criminal world of scamming wholesalers. I trust that I'll know what to do now to be safe (well safer) in my endevours. Lesson: extreme paranoia is a GOOD thing. 416530 2010-12-08T07:39:10-08:00 MarGen Beware buyers! don't ever ever buy on aliexpress or alibaba. I've been scammed on aliexpress store name THE EAST INTERNATIONAL EXPORT CORPORATION (KBOE MA) STORE NO: 203636 name of the thief: SHUAIJIANG WU . The seller is very kind at first, answering all my queries and even promised to include a free gift. I paid him thru WESTERN UNION but after he receives the money he never answers my emails and he even blocks me from chatting on his store site. I threatened him to tell it to aliexpress but he told me that he does not care. He even sends nasty emails and racist comments about Filipinos. That f*#@$%* doesn't have a conscience. I reported him already on aliexpress and even sent our email conversations as evidence.So please warn others not to trust on sites like aliexpress and alibaba. Full of scammers and thieves!! 416520 2010-12-07T10:01:11-08:00 InsideAlibaba This site is used by swindlers, they receive money, the order doesn't send. Take measures, stop swindlers. I can send all documents of payment confirmation. http://www.hk-yamaha.com Domain name: hk-yamaha.com Registrant Contact: linhao hao lin 505175638@qq.com +86.5949696856 putian putian fujian 351100 cn Administrative Contact: hao lin 505175638@qq.com +86.5949696856 putian fujian 351100 cn DNS: ns5.cnmsn.net ns6.cnmsn.net 416440 2010-10-26T16:43:14-07:00 Peter Nuss Yep... "Alibaba and the forty thieves" is an accurate description. I was scammed by Rando Tulong (company -> Deras Laku .PT) for $1300 USD over 2 ICS masonry chainsaws. Notified Alibaba and they removed his account. Logged into the Alibaba site and found 2 more Indonesian accounts selling the same item and sounding very familiar. Checked their phone numbers and they didn't work. Notified Alibaba again and these were also removed. I reckon I could spend a whole month trawling through the site and pointing out scammers. The question is why dosen't the site management do this? I think the answer is obvious. Love to be able to lodge legal action against the website as they fail to carry out basic checks against supplier's account information. Surely they have some responsibility? Anyway live and learn. You are all absolutely correct - greed can make you blind. In my case I intended to use the chainsaws for my own backyard work and not resell it but I suppose that's no excuse. I blame myself fully. Cheers everyone and if anyone can provide info on how to catch/prosecute these Indonesian (Medan City, Sumartra) scammers or the website they operate through let me know. Keep on keeping on. 416490 2010-10-14T19:20:23-07:00 pacco # rod parkes Says: September 2nd, 2010 at 1:50 pm i was going to try alibaba myself and have put up some buying leads in the hope of starting a little ebay home business myself.i have not as yet bought anything from alibaa but have noticed it has started advertising on mainstream tv,several adverts have been on itv 1 in recent weeks.now it is more visible maybe they will start screening their sellers to get rid of the thieves.as a to anyone would be to try to deal with sellers in their own country at least if you live in england and you get scammed you may be able to put the matter in the hands of trading standards,maybe they could help.anyway im sure there are lots of genuine sellers our there willing to help the new business comunity get started. # Matt Says: September 7th, 2010 at 1:39 pm Thank you very much for your help. I was minutes away from committing to a deal which I thought was 'too good to be true' but my greed was also getting the best of me. Thank you for bringing me back down to earth. # Melisa Says: September 8th, 2010 at 4:57 pm I tried to buy something from alibaba, and in the end I found the seller was a fake company. Lucky me, somehow the transfer didn't work out. Then I tried Aliexpress, I got a fake product. And I can't get my money back even I tried to open a dispute with Aliexpress. Aliexpress protects the sellers even they know the seller sell fake products. # Rooster Says: September 9th, 2010 at 11:38 am I was scammed by Alibaba. I needed a GPS antenna that had become obsolete. So a Google search brought me to thier seller, Vincent Wang. He showed me a pictureo f what I needed, took my $97, and never sent the item. Around and around in circles, he would not refund the money. Luckily, I had used American Express and PayPal, so this thief will not get paid. Beware of thee scammers, I am a bit ashamed of myself, as I think we have all heard the stories of 'Alibabba and the Forty Thieves' yet I still fell for the scam. Rooster # Rooster Says: September 9th, 2010 at 11:41 am Also of note to my blog, above: The Alibaba scammer kept trying to get me to 'confirm receipt' of the false shipment. If I had done so, American Express and PayPal would not have been able to refund my $97. SO BEWARE!!!! Best to all, Rooster