Comments on: How I Got Scammed By a Seller On Alibaba

By: Johnny Lim

Johnny Lim — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:03:44 +0000

Rule of thumb for international business:

1. Pay with paypal after you contact paypal. If the account is less than 2 years? Do not pay with Paypal.
2. Never pay with Bank Transfer if you never done any business with your counterpart. Once you wire the money? you and your bank have no power to retreive the money.
3. Never pay with Western Union/Money Gram. If you do that? it is like sending your money to your brother aka FREE MONEY. lol.

Use broker. Play smart. Trade smart. Use extra caution. Go to EBAY and you can find traders from different nationality. Check their number behind the user name. Any number less than 100? Dont buy big number. Buy or Trade locally if you can do that.

Dont buy any American product from China! It is Fake for sure. If you need iphone or blackberry? I can purchase them for you. You can email me johnylim@rocketmail.com and I will formally provide you with price quote with company name and you pay with Paypal or Bank Transfer.

If you need other stuff from US? I can assist you too. Email me what you need and I will do my best to assist you.

By: saman

saman — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:11:56 +0000

I just scammed by a bastard named wang neng cai buyibg laptops

email ofhim : dianaelectronics@hotmail.com

company : xiamen xintrade

bank :

bank of china , putian branch

beneficiary wang neng cai

i lost 1003 dollar

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:19:47 +0000

Maria,
Sorry to hear what happened to you. I think the supplier and Samuel Xia work together in this scam/fraud, and probably Yunjin Guan and Samuel Xia are the same person in disguise. Hope this may help. I suggest you take it easy and slow as it will prove to be long, hard and very tedious to get your money back and justice served. Don’t let anger or despair consume you too far, you have a long life and many more worthy things to pursue. Take care.

By: maria gonzalez

maria gonzalez — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:10:05 +0000

Since last november I made contact with Guangdong Jiangmen City Yetong Electric Vehicles Company Limited, through a supposed international executive (it was shown on their website as such) named Samuel Xia, our fist contact was via alibaba.com I enclose the receipt from the bank to which this Samuel told me to deposit for 3 electric vehicles.

After two weeks of having made the deposit, the supplier, represented by Yunjin Guan, says the person that was our contact (Samuel Xia) does not work on the company since a while ago, and that the account info he gave us was not theirs, but he actually send us an email from the very same email account, ( samuel_jmyetong@126.com) saying he didnt review that email often because he had no time!!!even it was posted on their website as their international contact. He changed it after all my problem.

I need help. We made the transfer 2 weeks go for $7853 usdlls, which were the savings of our lives.

I cant believe Guan says the person has not been working with them since a while ago, yet his name and mobile phone were listed on the website
http://www.jmyetong.com , on the contact us section, it said clearly Samuel Xia international executive, mobile 008613672988535

We started negotiations via email since november last year,our first contact with this company was via alibaba, and from there they reached us through the same email account, samuel_jmyetong@126.com
and since then they didnt checked the email or change it or cancelled it. Until now that we made the transfer. It seems quite illogical to me.

We acced to make the transaction since the company is in their 2nd year gold supplier member in alibba.com

If he stopped working with them WHY DIDNT THEM :

1) post and add in alibaba and their website
2) erase his name and contact info from the website
3) cancel the email they showed on their website if this person was still in use of it, or change the password, anything

To me it feels like the supplier’s fault, by all that am enlisting on top.

After Yunjin Guan knew about the scam, I asked him for help since I am pennyless now and cant go to China, and told him it seemed to me he had ALL responisbility. The answer he gave is that he is very busy all the time, so he never had time to change the contact info (until now) and that he doesnt have time to check all their employees´s info. I asked him for help to contact this person, and he said he wasnt local. He couldnt reach him. He is busy. And obviously he is not responding as in merchandise, since the money, he says, never made it to the company.

I really need help.

By: Richard

Richard — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:38:39 +0000

@ Andrea

I am sorry for your lost. I have a degree in international business and was lucky to have not been scammed at alibaba. I have checked with Guizhou zhongming trading company limited and found that their sites have several red flags. First, they sell too many different name brand merchandise ranging from cellular phones to computers. Most manufactures in china do not have the authority to sell name brand computers or cellular phones. Secondly, they sell all this merchandise, however, they just got a license less than a year. Again, If you are looking for name brand computers or cellular phones, look at sites that sell here in the U.S. It’s cheaper and will probably not get scammed. (look at liquidation.com). This place has many honest companies that sell raw materials, non-brand electronics, or bulk equipment.

By: Andrea

Andrea — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 04:05:44 +0000

I lost $450 for 10 pairs Vibram shoes , don’t buy from Guizhou zhongming trading company limited in China , too bad I didn’t read this forum before , I’m single mother with 2 school kids. I’m counting every cent & I can’t believe what I did. I’m so happy I live in USA and I will never over buy anything from China cockroaches ! But what comes around goes around .

By: Richard

Richard — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:31:39 +0000

@ Paul.

If you have read my previous message you would know that this is either a fraud or fake iphone. Check with apple to see if they are a registered apple retailer.. DONT’ BUY from this guy. IF YOU DO, YOU WILL BE SORRY LATER!!!

By: Ferdy

Ferdy — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:41:19 +0000

@Paul

My experience say that never ever deal with merchants who only accepts Western Union as their method of trading (at least when you trade first time with them). How do you even know the first name he gave you is not his REAL name?? It might be his real name but he said that it’s not his real name to lure you into buying from him. Do careful research and if possible, pay using paypal or credit card which is safer than western union. Ask him for more proof if you’re still in doubt. Check his company’s address to see if that address is legit and call him if you must. Well, this is just my opinion but the decision is all up to you.
Cheers..

By: Paul Damian

Paul Damian — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:28:03 +0000

Anybody dealt with IKAZI INC ….. they deal with original new Iphones , so they say.

However, they only accept Western Union. I am supposed to send the money through the Western Union in UK under a name that I only know. Then, I have to send him an receipt of the money as proof to him. Then, he will send me the products and once I received them and I am satisfied I have to change the name to his so can collect the money. Is this safe. I never did business through Western Union. What do you THINK??? I am new at this and I am not sure how to go about !!!!
Thank you
Paul

By: Rani

Rani — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 03:43:37 +0000

Deviansyah…..u losser

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:18:22 +0000

What a bunch of friggin whingers, you all tried to buy something for next to nothing. then come on here and say its Alibabas fault.The girl who said about buying laptops at a stupid low price, hello Einstein, if its too good to be true, it usually is. Pay a good price and you wont get scammed,human beings are so friggin stupid

By: Richard

Richard — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:34:18 +0000

Oh and another thing, Make sure you don’t buy any name brands from alibaba. Check with the name brand company to see if they are authorized to sell their product if you are determined to buy it here at alibaba. Almost all name brand companies will have an authorized sellers list of who may sell their products. If the company that you are dealing with are not on the list, you can bet that it’s either fake, stolen, or fraud. This place is for international manufactures, chemical factories, and growers to sell their product. For me, I buy metals, non-name brand tools or equipment, and chemicals for a variety of uses. Remember, This is for a business to business transaction that requires buying large quantity of merchandise that may be too large for ebay home-business. And finally, (I know i keep writing, but I want people to get educated in reducing fraud) If they sell items from another country’s origin. I.E; China selling Mexican patron tequila.. Think Think. why are you buying from a middleman in china for a tequila made in mexico. Good luck

By: Richard

Richard — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:17:53 +0000

It’s very tricky when you buy from alibaba. I have been buying from alibaba for about 3 years now. Luckily, I have not been scammed. I have dropped many companies who do not follow my rules. I graduated in international business and remembered some important details in buying international stuff online. I will give you some that will help you weed out the fraud companies. First, Check to see how long the company been with alibaba. The fraud companies will only have a short time on alibaba before they kick them off for complaints. check online for any fraud complaints of that company.. Second, most business manufactures does not take paypal. Ask if they take L/C ( letter of credit) If so, how many times and what U.S bank did they used the most often from US customers. Write or call to the U.S bank and ask did they have any problems with the company in fulfilling their obligations with L/C. Third, If they don’t take L/C, ask if they take alipay or other escrow payments. Forth, If the company only takes t/t ( Bank to Bank transaction) Get ahold of a U.S embassy ( look online at http://www.TRADE.GOV. FOR UPDATED SECURITY AND OPPERTUNITY NEWS) in that part of the country and ask if they are an actual business as stated. Fifth, Real business wants to make you happy so that you are a customer that keeps on buying from them. They will never rush you on a one time deal. They make their money by you keep coming back and buying more of their merchandise. And final, NEVER, NEVER pay with Western Union until you have developed a long term relationship with the company. It is so risky, that I have not even consider the option. TOO RISKY. They can take your money and there is nothing you can do about it except complain…>>>>

By: gildas

gildas — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:34:36 +0000

hahahahahahahaha
sorry for what happen to you

By: Flores

Flores — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:15:42 +0000

I am so pissed, dude! I got scammed and i still dont believe it, this kind of thing we think that never happen but .. damn, i feel so dumb right now. I lost usd588.00 for the following piece of shit rats,

Firs Name: Derry
Last Name: Juanda
Andress : JALAN PERINTIS Kermerdekaan no.78
Zip Code : 20919
City : Medan
State : Sumatra Utara
Country : Indonesia

This is the name of the poor little fuck and also his Wester Union bank.

I found the contact in alibaba.com under the fake name of BUHIT MUSIK company, the rat also have another fake company called MILLENIUM HUPPE.

I bought an eletronic device, i paid via wester union but never receive it.
What everyone should take notice is.. this scumm bags are extremely organized, they have fake shipping couriers websites, they play a very emotional drama while talking with you and blah blah blah. Those rats got to be smashed in the head.