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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.moneybluebook.com/2009-federal-income-tax-brackets-official-irs-tax-rates/comment-page-4/#comment-148022</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All,

I require a Late Filing Interest and Penalty rate table for all the States for tax year 2010 to make it simpler for me to calculate it. Can anyone get it for me. I have tried the Tax Almanac website but they give out only Underpayment rates.

Thanks,

Nick</description>
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<p>I require a Late Filing Interest and Penalty rate table for all the States for tax year 2010 to make it simpler for me to calculate it. Can anyone get it for me. I have tried the Tax Almanac website but they give out only Underpayment rates.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Nick</p>
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		<title>By: phil pauley</title>
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		<dc:creator>phil pauley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 02:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The IRS 1040 tax tables can be used to help understand the somewhat confusing Federal income tax system. These tables show the tax to be paid at every income level up to $100,000. The effective tax rate is then,in per cent,the tax divided by the income at that income level.  The tables show that the tax rate for a single-filing payer is 10% on incomes up to $8,350. Above $8,350 the effective tax rate gradually increases from 10% to 13.76 % at the$33,950 income level, the top of the &quot;marginal&quot; 15% tax bracket,where the tax is $4,671.      In the next bracket,which has a marginal rate of 25%, the effective tax rate starts at 13.76% at the $33,950 level and ends at 20.36% at $82,250, the end of the bracket. Similar results occur with higher income brackets &amp; married payer rates are somewhat lower...
   It should then be obvious that (1)There are no steps in the tax rate as you go from from one tax bracket to the next, (2)The effective tax rates are always less than the marginal rates, and (3)Each &quot;additional dollar&quot; is taxed at the effective tax rate at that income level,
not at the marginal rate as many believe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The IRS 1040 tax tables can be used to help understand the somewhat confusing Federal income tax system. These tables show the tax to be paid at every income level up to $100,000. The effective tax rate is then,in per cent,the tax divided by the income at that income level.  The tables show that the tax rate for a single-filing payer is 10% on incomes up to $8,350. Above $8,350 the effective tax rate gradually increases from 10% to 13.76 % at the$33,950 income level, the top of the &#8220;marginal&#8221; 15% tax bracket,where the tax is $4,671.      In the next bracket,which has a marginal rate of 25%, the effective tax rate starts at 13.76% at the $33,950 level and ends at 20.36% at $82,250, the end of the bracket. Similar results occur with higher income brackets &amp; married payer rates are somewhat lower&#8230;<br />
   It should then be obvious that (1)There are no steps in the tax rate as you go from from one tax bracket to the next, (2)The effective tax rates are always less than the marginal rates, and (3)Each &#8220;additional dollar&#8221; is taxed at the effective tax rate at that income level,<br />
not at the marginal rate as many believe!</p>
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		<title>By: Rick B</title>
		<link>http://www.moneybluebook.com/2009-federal-income-tax-brackets-official-irs-tax-rates/comment-page-4/#comment-140961</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a prime example of why the rich and other special interests will never allow a flat tax without loopholes to fly:


Divorce Filing Reveals How the Rich Stay RichUpdated: 2 hours 23 minutes ago 
Print Text Size E-mail MoreScott Martelle
 

AOL News LOS ANGELES (Feb. 24) -- As F. Scott Fitzgerald once wrote, &quot;The rich are different from you and me&quot; -- and apparently never more so than at tax time.

Legal papers filed in connection with the high-profile divorce here of Jamie and Frank McCourt, whose portfolio includes the Los Angeles Dodgers baseball team, show that the couple took in $108 million from 2004 to 2009 and didn&#039;t pay a penny in income tax, according a Los Angeles Times report.
 
Vince Bucci, Getty Images
Frank and Jamie McCourt, here in 2008, are locked in a high-profile divorce battle.
The McCourts made their money in real estate, primarily in Boston, before buying the team in 2004. So rancorous is the divorce that even the team&#039;s ownership is in contention. Frank McCourt claims he owns the team individually; Jamie McCourt claims she owns half.

The McCourts apparently used legal tax mechanisms, including depreciating property, to offset the income. But that isn&#039;t likely to make the news any more palatable for people affected by high unemployment, record home foreclosures and tanked retirement accounts.

Or, for that matter, for Dodgers fans. The team announced this week it is raising ticket prices for the coming season.
Filed under: Nation, Money, Sports</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a prime example of why the rich and other special interests will never allow a flat tax without loopholes to fly:</p>
<p>Divorce Filing Reveals How the Rich Stay RichUpdated: 2 hours 23 minutes ago<br />
Print Text Size E-mail MoreScott Martelle</p>
<p>AOL News LOS ANGELES (Feb. 24) &#8212; As F. Scott Fitzgerald once wrote, &#8220;The rich are different from you and me&#8221; &#8212; and apparently never more so than at tax time.</p>
<p>Legal papers filed in connection with the high-profile divorce here of Jamie and Frank McCourt, whose portfolio includes the Los Angeles Dodgers baseball team, show that the couple took in $108 million from 2004 to 2009 and didn&#8217;t pay a penny in income tax, according a Los Angeles Times report.</p>
<p>Vince Bucci, Getty Images<br />
Frank and Jamie McCourt, here in 2008, are locked in a high-profile divorce battle.<br />
The McCourts made their money in real estate, primarily in Boston, before buying the team in 2004. So rancorous is the divorce that even the team&#8217;s ownership is in contention. Frank McCourt claims he owns the team individually; Jamie McCourt claims she owns half.</p>
<p>The McCourts apparently used legal tax mechanisms, including depreciating property, to offset the income. But that isn&#8217;t likely to make the news any more palatable for people affected by high unemployment, record home foreclosures and tanked retirement accounts.</p>
<p>Or, for that matter, for Dodgers fans. The team announced this week it is raising ticket prices for the coming season.<br />
Filed under: Nation, Money, Sports</p>
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		<title>By: Rick B</title>
		<link>http://www.moneybluebook.com/2009-federal-income-tax-brackets-official-irs-tax-rates/comment-page-4/#comment-140935</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A flat tax will never fly because it&#039;s too regressive.  When working and middle-class people see how much of their income would go for taxes with no exemptions, credits, or deductions they would freak out, especially when they see how little tax (percentage wise) the rich would pay in relation to their large incomes.  Can you imagine the titanic battles that would occur when special interests try to carve out exceptions for themselves?  Won&#039;t happen in your lifetime. Taxes will be going up in the future and they will be progressive.  There&#039;s no way out of the box we now have ourselves in due to greed, waste, out-of-control spending, financial favortism, and poor planning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A flat tax will never fly because it&#8217;s too regressive.  When working and middle-class people see how much of their income would go for taxes with no exemptions, credits, or deductions they would freak out, especially when they see how little tax (percentage wise) the rich would pay in relation to their large incomes.  Can you imagine the titanic battles that would occur when special interests try to carve out exceptions for themselves?  Won&#8217;t happen in your lifetime. Taxes will be going up in the future and they will be progressive.  There&#8217;s no way out of the box we now have ourselves in due to greed, waste, out-of-control spending, financial favortism, and poor planning.</p>
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		<title>By: Tax revolt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tax revolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 06:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FLAT TAX....................dam people when u going to learn.........................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FLAT TAX&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..dam people when u going to learn&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel,

I think we&#039;re all frustrated right now.  So many things have become so large that no one seems to know what the correct answers are.  Unfortunately, our political leaders are so polarized they can only think in immediate terms related to getting reelected.  Try to stay calm as things have a way of working out in time. 

First, I&#039;m very sorry to hear about your cousin being killed in Iraq.  Let&#039;s hope that in the long run he died for a good cause.  We won&#039;t really know for many years down the road.  And, thank you for serving in our military. 

Yes, there is a lot of oil shale in the mountains out in Colorado.  However, it is very expensive to turn into usable oil.  Also, I don&#039;t think the people of Colorado want that kind of mining in their state.  Their is still too much oil in the world for companies to deal with oil shale at this time.  Eventually, some alternative forms of power will have to be used.  

Jobs were shipped over seas to countries like China, Viet Nam, etc., because big companies pushed for gobalization.  That let them produce goods with cheap labor.  Unfortunately, that meant job losses for Americans who were used to nice wages.  It&#039;s probably not going back to the way it was.  Global competition won&#039;t allow American companies to be profitable with expensive labor.  America needs to invest heavily in areas where we can compete.  High tech is one area.  Again, unfortunately, education does not seem to be a priority of most Americans.  We seem to be too self centered and concerned about our own individual welfare to think in terms of what&#039;s good for the country and future generations.  

I know the immigration issue really really irritates people.  It&#039;s just something that has to be dealt with with great care.  As mentioned previously, there is a huge (and growing) Hispanic voting bloc in America.  That&#039;s not going to change.  So, some sort of compromise has to be worked out to deal with the issue.  That&#039;s just the way it has to be whether we like it or not. 

I agree with the idea of term limits.  I also think there should be NO lobbying of any sort.  Businesses should not be allowed to contribute to campaigns.  There has to be a better way of electing people to make important decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel,</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;re all frustrated right now.  So many things have become so large that no one seems to know what the correct answers are.  Unfortunately, our political leaders are so polarized they can only think in immediate terms related to getting reelected.  Try to stay calm as things have a way of working out in time. </p>
<p>First, I&#8217;m very sorry to hear about your cousin being killed in Iraq.  Let&#8217;s hope that in the long run he died for a good cause.  We won&#8217;t really know for many years down the road.  And, thank you for serving in our military. </p>
<p>Yes, there is a lot of oil shale in the mountains out in Colorado.  However, it is very expensive to turn into usable oil.  Also, I don&#8217;t think the people of Colorado want that kind of mining in their state.  Their is still too much oil in the world for companies to deal with oil shale at this time.  Eventually, some alternative forms of power will have to be used.  </p>
<p>Jobs were shipped over seas to countries like China, Viet Nam, etc., because big companies pushed for gobalization.  That let them produce goods with cheap labor.  Unfortunately, that meant job losses for Americans who were used to nice wages.  It&#8217;s probably not going back to the way it was.  Global competition won&#8217;t allow American companies to be profitable with expensive labor.  America needs to invest heavily in areas where we can compete.  High tech is one area.  Again, unfortunately, education does not seem to be a priority of most Americans.  We seem to be too self centered and concerned about our own individual welfare to think in terms of what&#8217;s good for the country and future generations.  </p>
<p>I know the immigration issue really really irritates people.  It&#8217;s just something that has to be dealt with with great care.  As mentioned previously, there is a huge (and growing) Hispanic voting bloc in America.  That&#8217;s not going to change.  So, some sort of compromise has to be worked out to deal with the issue.  That&#8217;s just the way it has to be whether we like it or not. </p>
<p>I agree with the idea of term limits.  I also think there should be NO lobbying of any sort.  Businesses should not be allowed to contribute to campaigns.  There has to be a better way of electing people to make important decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick B,
I understand the problem would be harder than I posted I was mearly unloading a few things in my head. I found the thread that I posted slightly amusing as well. I do think however we should reserch the oil in the shale in Colorado. Canada does have a good supply in the sand up there that China is trying to buy now. I would never expect the elderly to work for health benefits but i do expect the able bodies claiming fiber mialga or carpul tunnel or my dick&#039;s broke to work for the benifits. My spelling is horrible. The world we live in now is so screwed up hell I think that we forgot how to produce anything anymore. Our fruit comes from chili our cars come from overseas our clothes come from everywhere but here and we act like drones. I buy USA Jeans cotton made here and made with American labor. $38.00 per pair and they last. We have a debt to china for 800,000,000,000 that&#039;s what we baled out the banks with. We pour money into Haiti who buy the way hate us until crap like this happens. And our taxes go up go figure. Hell they used to eat jamacans. In any way I can&#039;t stand the thought of taxpayer&#039;s paying for Illegal imergrants to have any rights here. They don&#039;t deserve any there not Americans those are our rights that millions of us have spilt blood for. I served in the army I cannot remember saying that I will defend the constitution for the illegal&#039;s to have all the right&#039;s as I or my fellow Americans have. That bother&#039;s me. I here people say to me don&#039;t you have a heart my answer is always yes I care about every American in this country and this country only. We are trying to fix the world and we are loosing sight of ourselves in the process. I think that term limit&#039;s should be put in place in the senate and congress no more than 8 years they get to cozy. i also think that we should question everything that we have knowledge about and don&#039;t agree with. I think that big decisions like health care should be left to the voter&#039;s we have to pay for it. Our National defense is weak because we are spread to thin around the world saving everyones economy. Before my cousin was killed in 2004 in Iraq the troops were wiping thier ass with the Iraq money because it was not worth anything until the USA decided to back thier dollar. Screw them they have major oil that they don&#039;t contribute to the effort to liberate them the military should&#039;nt have to pay crap for thier fuel. I have so much on my mind I get on a rant very easily sorry people Frustration is getting the best of me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick B,<br />
I understand the problem would be harder than I posted I was mearly unloading a few things in my head. I found the thread that I posted slightly amusing as well. I do think however we should reserch the oil in the shale in Colorado. Canada does have a good supply in the sand up there that China is trying to buy now. I would never expect the elderly to work for health benefits but i do expect the able bodies claiming fiber mialga or carpul tunnel or my dick&#8217;s broke to work for the benifits. My spelling is horrible. The world we live in now is so screwed up hell I think that we forgot how to produce anything anymore. Our fruit comes from chili our cars come from overseas our clothes come from everywhere but here and we act like drones. I buy USA Jeans cotton made here and made with American labor. $38.00 per pair and they last. We have a debt to china for 800,000,000,000 that&#8217;s what we baled out the banks with. We pour money into Haiti who buy the way hate us until crap like this happens. And our taxes go up go figure. Hell they used to eat jamacans. In any way I can&#8217;t stand the thought of taxpayer&#8217;s paying for Illegal imergrants to have any rights here. They don&#8217;t deserve any there not Americans those are our rights that millions of us have spilt blood for. I served in the army I cannot remember saying that I will defend the constitution for the illegal&#8217;s to have all the right&#8217;s as I or my fellow Americans have. That bother&#8217;s me. I here people say to me don&#8217;t you have a heart my answer is always yes I care about every American in this country and this country only. We are trying to fix the world and we are loosing sight of ourselves in the process. I think that term limit&#8217;s should be put in place in the senate and congress no more than 8 years they get to cozy. i also think that we should question everything that we have knowledge about and don&#8217;t agree with. I think that big decisions like health care should be left to the voter&#8217;s we have to pay for it. Our National defense is weak because we are spread to thin around the world saving everyones economy. Before my cousin was killed in 2004 in Iraq the troops were wiping thier ass with the Iraq money because it was not worth anything until the USA decided to back thier dollar. Screw them they have major oil that they don&#8217;t contribute to the effort to liberate them the military should&#8217;nt have to pay crap for thier fuel. I have so much on my mind I get on a rant very easily sorry people Frustration is getting the best of me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick B</title>
		<link>http://www.moneybluebook.com/2009-federal-income-tax-brackets-official-irs-tax-rates/comment-page-3/#comment-139630</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 15:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel,

Yes, everyone is getting really frustrated.  I agree with many of the things you said but the reality is some things are not so easy to fix.  At least not as easy as you might think.  There’s plenty of blame to go around.  You were wise to warn your employees and friends not to mortgage their homes to the max.  They learned a good but expensive lesson.  Individuals on both sides of the mortgages were to blame in most cases.  The lenders were greedy as were the borrowers.  

With respect to taxes, let me say, it’s easier to give people things than to take them away.  We’ve been giving people things (benefits, entitlements, etc.) since after WWII.  Neither party wants to be seen as taking away these things because they will lose power.  They are going to wait until the very last second to take action.  As an example, everyone knows Americans can’t go on buying medical insurance with premiums rising way faster than wages.  It just can’t go on.  Of course, those with good company paid insurance or Medicare don’t want to make any sacrifice for those who don’t.  So until more people become hurt by this situation than those not hurt, things can’t change.  

I mentioned before that the biggest part of any welfare budget is NOT cash assistance but medical assistance.  BY FAR.  You can’t make sick or old people in nursing homes go to work.  Many working poor also receive medical assistance because their employers don’t offer insurance or they can’t afford the premiums.  Yes, able bodied people should work, and many do since Clinton passed legislation forcing them to, for any assistance received but that won’t even put a small dent in welfare.  Believe me, I worked in that business for 30 years.  IT’S ALL MEDICAL ALL OF THE TIME.  Welfare makes great TV theater, however.  It&#039;s an emotional issue that garners votes.

The problem of illegal immigration is a tough one created over many decades by lax rules and lax enforcement.  Businesses love the cheap labor and American consumers love cheap prices.  As an example, you’d be hard pressed to find a home built here in Arizona that wasn’t largely built by Hispanics. Many, I’m sure, were illegal.  It’s a tricky problem now because so many Hispanics have become LEGAL citizens over the past 60 years that they represent a huge voting bloc that both parties are afraid of.  Rightly so.  

With respect to the ideas and solutions put forth in the thread you posted, I can only say it’s really too simplistic in today’s world.  I absolutely hated the idea of war in Iraq and Afghanistan.  However, what do you think would have happened if we did not go in?  My guess is Al Qaeda would be much stronger right now.  It would slowly topple other weak or corrupt governments and that would eventually threaten the U.S.  Yes, many of our so called allies are selfish wimps. However, many of the countries that would be included on list number 2 are poor countries with little or no expertise at fighting wars.  There are, however, many who should be helping.  The biggest being Russia and China who have potential problems with insurgent movements in their own countries.  But, they know the U.S. has little choice but to fight against the extremists.

I found some of the things in the thread amusing.  The deal about the parking tickets was funny and the issue about drilling in Alaska was, too.  The oil in Alaska will not provide American with its energy needs for decades.  It would satisfy one small piece of our need at the risk of who knows what damage in a pristine environment. Alaska is a national treasure bought on the cheap.  I am, however, open to looking at that situation more closely.  By the way, we are hunting down terrorists every day.  But, it’s not easy.  

Problems in today’s world are very complex and frustrating.  People want simple solutions and they want them now.  It is not going to happen like that. It’s always a painful ugly process.  Most of the problems in today’s world can be boiled down to (in my opinion) greed (business and personal), ignorance, rabid nationalism/tribalism, and religion.  It won’t be easy changing of any of those things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel,</p>
<p>Yes, everyone is getting really frustrated.  I agree with many of the things you said but the reality is some things are not so easy to fix.  At least not as easy as you might think.  There’s plenty of blame to go around.  You were wise to warn your employees and friends not to mortgage their homes to the max.  They learned a good but expensive lesson.  Individuals on both sides of the mortgages were to blame in most cases.  The lenders were greedy as were the borrowers.  </p>
<p>With respect to taxes, let me say, it’s easier to give people things than to take them away.  We’ve been giving people things (benefits, entitlements, etc.) since after WWII.  Neither party wants to be seen as taking away these things because they will lose power.  They are going to wait until the very last second to take action.  As an example, everyone knows Americans can’t go on buying medical insurance with premiums rising way faster than wages.  It just can’t go on.  Of course, those with good company paid insurance or Medicare don’t want to make any sacrifice for those who don’t.  So until more people become hurt by this situation than those not hurt, things can’t change.  </p>
<p>I mentioned before that the biggest part of any welfare budget is NOT cash assistance but medical assistance.  BY FAR.  You can’t make sick or old people in nursing homes go to work.  Many working poor also receive medical assistance because their employers don’t offer insurance or they can’t afford the premiums.  Yes, able bodied people should work, and many do since Clinton passed legislation forcing them to, for any assistance received but that won’t even put a small dent in welfare.  Believe me, I worked in that business for 30 years.  IT’S ALL MEDICAL ALL OF THE TIME.  Welfare makes great TV theater, however.  It&#8217;s an emotional issue that garners votes.</p>
<p>The problem of illegal immigration is a tough one created over many decades by lax rules and lax enforcement.  Businesses love the cheap labor and American consumers love cheap prices.  As an example, you’d be hard pressed to find a home built here in Arizona that wasn’t largely built by Hispanics. Many, I’m sure, were illegal.  It’s a tricky problem now because so many Hispanics have become LEGAL citizens over the past 60 years that they represent a huge voting bloc that both parties are afraid of.  Rightly so.  </p>
<p>With respect to the ideas and solutions put forth in the thread you posted, I can only say it’s really too simplistic in today’s world.  I absolutely hated the idea of war in Iraq and Afghanistan.  However, what do you think would have happened if we did not go in?  My guess is Al Qaeda would be much stronger right now.  It would slowly topple other weak or corrupt governments and that would eventually threaten the U.S.  Yes, many of our so called allies are selfish wimps. However, many of the countries that would be included on list number 2 are poor countries with little or no expertise at fighting wars.  There are, however, many who should be helping.  The biggest being Russia and China who have potential problems with insurgent movements in their own countries.  But, they know the U.S. has little choice but to fight against the extremists.</p>
<p>I found some of the things in the thread amusing.  The deal about the parking tickets was funny and the issue about drilling in Alaska was, too.  The oil in Alaska will not provide American with its energy needs for decades.  It would satisfy one small piece of our need at the risk of who knows what damage in a pristine environment. Alaska is a national treasure bought on the cheap.  I am, however, open to looking at that situation more closely.  By the way, we are hunting down terrorists every day.  But, it’s not easy.  </p>
<p>Problems in today’s world are very complex and frustrating.  People want simple solutions and they want them now.  It is not going to happen like that. It’s always a painful ugly process.  Most of the problems in today’s world can be boiled down to (in my opinion) greed (business and personal), ignorance, rabid nationalism/tribalism, and religion.  It won’t be easy changing of any of those things.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew K</title>
		<link>http://www.moneybluebook.com/2009-federal-income-tax-brackets-official-irs-tax-rates/comment-page-3/#comment-139552</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick it&#039;s funny that you claim that my assertions are based in emotions when I have mentioned nothing but factual data. You&#039;re claims are evidence that individuals of your mindset are incapable of having a rational discussion, and when people call you out, you act like a spoiled brat. Deal with it, you lost the debate, have not put forth any factual support. Why don&#039;t you put forth facts, stop making emotion-based claims and inconsistent arguments, and start thinking like a rational human being. I apologize that my logic and sound factual support threatens you. And, let’s remember, you criticized me first after my initial post buddy, so don’t pull the poor bleeding heart liberal card on me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick it&#8217;s funny that you claim that my assertions are based in emotions when I have mentioned nothing but factual data. You&#8217;re claims are evidence that individuals of your mindset are incapable of having a rational discussion, and when people call you out, you act like a spoiled brat. Deal with it, you lost the debate, have not put forth any factual support. Why don&#8217;t you put forth facts, stop making emotion-based claims and inconsistent arguments, and start thinking like a rational human being. I apologize that my logic and sound factual support threatens you. And, let’s remember, you criticized me first after my initial post buddy, so don’t pull the poor bleeding heart liberal card on me!</p>
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		<title>By: Joel M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 06:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read these comments and understand the frustration. I own a small business in Massachusetts and the way the economy is it&#039;s making it hard to keep my employee&#039;s busy. During the booming 04,05,06 years when people had an unlimited piggy bank I.E thier mortgage. I saw my friends unloading tons of equity from thier houses and say don&#039;t worry my house is worth tons. I remember telling these guys be careful it&#039;s not going to last. Now about 60% of those friends are renting and thier neverending nest egg growth is worth nothing and all the fun they had with boats,cars,atv&#039;s,snowmobiles,vacations,rv&#039;s,huge nieghborhood parties, ect. Now they can barely put food on the table shop at wal-mart go to the salvation army store for school shopping it&#039;s sad BUT they put themselves in this position. I did not fall into this trap and my house is secure FOR NOW. I have seen a little upswing in the purchasing of product that I produce thank god. Taxes are a needed thing but if we add up all the things we pay taxes on it ads up to alot more than we think. I am no brianiac and do not have a MBA or for that matter I dropped out of 9th grade. Everyone is talking about people getting help here welfare there. I hate welfare I think that people should work for anything they get. I would&#039;nt hate it as much if I saw the people picking up the trash on the side of the road or painting the bridges or cleaning up the grafitti on the walls of the highway. What ever happened to the WPA I remember my grandfather talking about this if I used the right abrieviation. They used to get a check to help in the thirties for the work they did. It was&#039;nt a handout it was more of a paycheck. Some call this communist I don&#039;t see it that way. If your going to get Gov. money then get your benifits in the way of a check and get taxed for it. Illegal immergrant&#039;s are in this country we know it and the Gov know&#039;s it. I think I read it&#039;s about 12,000,000 that&#039;s alot of untaxed people go into the high known immergrant communities and start looking through the books of companies and see how many employee&#039;s they have on the books then look around the shop I bet they count more people working there than they are reporting. Bust them and make the illegal pop. start to pay taxes you will see a drop in the illegal pop. because we will shut down your company if you don&#039;t take taxes out. Illegal people in America do not have rights. THEY ARE NOT AMERICANS. go to court any given day you will see that they are using the system more than we are they get court appionted attorney&#039;s language specialist&#039;s and services that should only be avail. to AMERICANS. I got a thread in my e-mail the other day I will post it here

WOULDN&#039;T  IT BE GREAT TO TURN ON THE TV AND HEAR ANY U.S. PRESIDENT, DEMOCRAT OR  REPUBLICAN GIVE THE FOLLOWING  SPEECH? 

&quot;My  Fellow Americans: As you all know, the defeat of the Iraq regime has been completed. 

Since congress does not want to spend any more  money on this war, our mission in Iraq is complete. 

This morning  I gave the order for a complete removal of all American forces from Iraq  This action will be complete within 30 days. It is now time to begin the  reckoning. 

Before  me, I have two lists. One list contains the names of countries which  have stood by our side during the Iraq conflict. This list is short . The United Kingdom , Spain , Bulgaria , Australia , and Poland are some  of the countries listed there. 

The other list contains every one  not on the first list. Most of the world&#039;s nations are on that list.. My  press secretary will be distributing copies of both lists later this  evening. 

Let me start by saying that effective immediately,  foreign aid to those nations on List 2 ceases immediately and  indefinitely. The money saved during the first year alone will pretty  much pay for the costs of the Iraqi war. THEN  EVERY YEAR THERE AFTER IT&#039;ll GO TO OUR SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM SO IT WONT  GO BROKE IN 20 YEARS. 

The  American people are no longer going to pour money into third world Hell  holes and watch those government leaders grow fat on  corruption. 

Need help with a famine ? Wrestling with an epidemic?  Call France . 

In the future, together with Congress, I will work  to redirect this money toward solving the vexing social problems we  still have at home . On that note, a word to terrorist organizations.  Screw with us and we will hunt you down and eliminate you and all your  friends from the face of the earth.. 

Thirsting  for a gutsy country to terrorize? Try France or maybe China  . 

I  am ordering the immediate severing of diplomatic relations with France , 

Germany , and Russia .. Thanks for all your help, comrades. We are retiring from NATO as well. Bonnechance,  mes amis. 

I  have instructed the Mayor of New York City to begin towing the many UN diplomatic vehicles located in Manhattan with more than two unpaid  parking tickets to sites where those vehicles will be stripped, shredded  and crushed. I don&#039;t care about whatever treaty pertains to this. You  creeps have tens of thousands of unpaid tickets. Pay those tickets  tomorrow or watch your precious Benzes, Beamers and limos be turned over  to some of the finest chop shops in the world. I love New  York 

A  special note to our neighbors. Canada is on List 2. Since we are likely to be seeing a lot more of each other, you folks might want to try not pissing us off for a change. 

Mexico is  also on List 2 its president and his entire corrupt government really  need an attitude adjustment. I will have a couple extra thousand tanks  and infantry divisions sitting around. Guess where I am going to put &#039;em? Yep, border security. 

Oh,  by the way, the United States is abrogating the NAFTA treaty - starting  now. 

We  are tired of the one-way highway. Immediately, we&#039;ll be drilling for oil  in Alaska- which will take care of this country&#039;s oil needs for decades to come. If you&#039;re an environmentalist who opposes this decision, I  refer you to List 2 above: pick a country and move  there. 

It  is time for America to focus on its own welfare and its own citizens. Some will accuse us of isolationism. I answer them by saying, &#039;darn tootin.&#039; 

Nearly  a century of trying to help folks live a decent life around the world  has only earned us the undying enmity of just about everyone on the planet. It is time to eliminate hunger in America It is time to  eliminate homelessness in America . To the nations on List 1, a final  thought. Thank you guys. We owe you and we won&#039;t  forget. 

To  the nations on List 2, a final thought: You might want to learn to speak  Arabic. 

God bless America .. Thank you and good  night.&quot; 

That&#039;s my rant thanks sorry for so long have alot on my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read these comments and understand the frustration. I own a small business in Massachusetts and the way the economy is it&#8217;s making it hard to keep my employee&#8217;s busy. During the booming 04,05,06 years when people had an unlimited piggy bank I.E thier mortgage. I saw my friends unloading tons of equity from thier houses and say don&#8217;t worry my house is worth tons. I remember telling these guys be careful it&#8217;s not going to last. Now about 60% of those friends are renting and thier neverending nest egg growth is worth nothing and all the fun they had with boats,cars,atv&#8217;s,snowmobiles,vacations,rv&#8217;s,huge nieghborhood parties, ect. Now they can barely put food on the table shop at wal-mart go to the salvation army store for school shopping it&#8217;s sad BUT they put themselves in this position. I did not fall into this trap and my house is secure FOR NOW. I have seen a little upswing in the purchasing of product that I produce thank god. Taxes are a needed thing but if we add up all the things we pay taxes on it ads up to alot more than we think. I am no brianiac and do not have a MBA or for that matter I dropped out of 9th grade. Everyone is talking about people getting help here welfare there. I hate welfare I think that people should work for anything they get. I would&#8217;nt hate it as much if I saw the people picking up the trash on the side of the road or painting the bridges or cleaning up the grafitti on the walls of the highway. What ever happened to the WPA I remember my grandfather talking about this if I used the right abrieviation. They used to get a check to help in the thirties for the work they did. It was&#8217;nt a handout it was more of a paycheck. Some call this communist I don&#8217;t see it that way. If your going to get Gov. money then get your benifits in the way of a check and get taxed for it. Illegal immergrant&#8217;s are in this country we know it and the Gov know&#8217;s it. I think I read it&#8217;s about 12,000,000 that&#8217;s alot of untaxed people go into the high known immergrant communities and start looking through the books of companies and see how many employee&#8217;s they have on the books then look around the shop I bet they count more people working there than they are reporting. Bust them and make the illegal pop. start to pay taxes you will see a drop in the illegal pop. because we will shut down your company if you don&#8217;t take taxes out. Illegal people in America do not have rights. THEY ARE NOT AMERICANS. go to court any given day you will see that they are using the system more than we are they get court appionted attorney&#8217;s language specialist&#8217;s and services that should only be avail. to AMERICANS. I got a thread in my e-mail the other day I will post it here</p>
<p>WOULDN&#8217;T  IT BE GREAT TO TURN ON THE TV AND HEAR ANY U.S. PRESIDENT, DEMOCRAT OR  REPUBLICAN GIVE THE FOLLOWING  SPEECH? </p>
<p>&#8220;My  Fellow Americans: As you all know, the defeat of the Iraq regime has been completed. </p>
<p>Since congress does not want to spend any more  money on this war, our mission in Iraq is complete. </p>
<p>This morning  I gave the order for a complete removal of all American forces from Iraq  This action will be complete within 30 days. It is now time to begin the  reckoning. </p>
<p>Before  me, I have two lists. One list contains the names of countries which  have stood by our side during the Iraq conflict. This list is short . The United Kingdom , Spain , Bulgaria , Australia , and Poland are some  of the countries listed there. </p>
<p>The other list contains every one  not on the first list. Most of the world&#8217;s nations are on that list.. My  press secretary will be distributing copies of both lists later this  evening. </p>
<p>Let me start by saying that effective immediately,  foreign aid to those nations on List 2 ceases immediately and  indefinitely. The money saved during the first year alone will pretty  much pay for the costs of the Iraqi war. THEN  EVERY YEAR THERE AFTER IT&#8217;ll GO TO OUR SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM SO IT WONT  GO BROKE IN 20 YEARS. </p>
<p>The  American people are no longer going to pour money into third world Hell  holes and watch those government leaders grow fat on  corruption. </p>
<p>Need help with a famine ? Wrestling with an epidemic?  Call France . </p>
<p>In the future, together with Congress, I will work  to redirect this money toward solving the vexing social problems we  still have at home . On that note, a word to terrorist organizations.  Screw with us and we will hunt you down and eliminate you and all your  friends from the face of the earth.. </p>
<p>Thirsting  for a gutsy country to terrorize? Try France or maybe China  . </p>
<p>I  am ordering the immediate severing of diplomatic relations with France , </p>
<p>Germany , and Russia .. Thanks for all your help, comrades. We are retiring from NATO as well. Bonnechance,  mes amis. </p>
<p>I  have instructed the Mayor of New York City to begin towing the many UN diplomatic vehicles located in Manhattan with more than two unpaid  parking tickets to sites where those vehicles will be stripped, shredded  and crushed. I don&#8217;t care about whatever treaty pertains to this. You  creeps have tens of thousands of unpaid tickets. Pay those tickets  tomorrow or watch your precious Benzes, Beamers and limos be turned over  to some of the finest chop shops in the world. I love New  York </p>
<p>A  special note to our neighbors. Canada is on List 2. Since we are likely to be seeing a lot more of each other, you folks might want to try not pissing us off for a change. </p>
<p>Mexico is  also on List 2 its president and his entire corrupt government really  need an attitude adjustment. I will have a couple extra thousand tanks  and infantry divisions sitting around. Guess where I am going to put &#8216;em? Yep, border security. </p>
<p>Oh,  by the way, the United States is abrogating the NAFTA treaty &#8211; starting  now. </p>
<p>We  are tired of the one-way highway. Immediately, we&#8217;ll be drilling for oil  in Alaska- which will take care of this country&#8217;s oil needs for decades to come. If you&#8217;re an environmentalist who opposes this decision, I  refer you to List 2 above: pick a country and move  there. </p>
<p>It  is time for America to focus on its own welfare and its own citizens. Some will accuse us of isolationism. I answer them by saying, &#8216;darn tootin.&#8217; </p>
<p>Nearly  a century of trying to help folks live a decent life around the world  has only earned us the undying enmity of just about everyone on the planet. It is time to eliminate hunger in America It is time to  eliminate homelessness in America . To the nations on List 1, a final  thought. Thank you guys. We owe you and we won&#8217;t  forget. </p>
<p>To  the nations on List 2, a final thought: You might want to learn to speak  Arabic. </p>
<p>God bless America .. Thank you and good  night.&#8221; </p>
<p>That&#8217;s my rant thanks sorry for so long have alot on my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick B</title>
		<link>http://www.moneybluebook.com/2009-federal-income-tax-brackets-official-irs-tax-rates/comment-page-3/#comment-139211</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,  
You are very correct.  The tax tables do not tell the whole story.  The rich can avail themselves of many outs.  The same applies for American businesses.  I always hear about the supposed high tax rate on American companies but when you dig deeper, you find that very few ever pay taxes at a high rate.  The tax code allows for them to find ways to avoid paying taxes.  Again, this is supposed to be good in that benefits will eventually trickle down to the average guy.  Not much trickling over the past couple of decades as the working and middle classes have slowly been squeezed. More squeezing is on the way in the not too distant future as the crap is about to hit the fan.  We cannot keep running up the deficit and support all of the programs we now have. There will need to be more scrutiny of, and compromise in, programs and more revenue coming into the treasury for American to get back on its feet.  It will be painful and take a long time.  Right now the monied interests still have a strong grip on the levers of power but eventually that will give way to the masses who will become more vocal about the future of the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,<br />
You are very correct.  The tax tables do not tell the whole story.  The rich can avail themselves of many outs.  The same applies for American businesses.  I always hear about the supposed high tax rate on American companies but when you dig deeper, you find that very few ever pay taxes at a high rate.  The tax code allows for them to find ways to avoid paying taxes.  Again, this is supposed to be good in that benefits will eventually trickle down to the average guy.  Not much trickling over the past couple of decades as the working and middle classes have slowly been squeezed. More squeezing is on the way in the not too distant future as the crap is about to hit the fan.  We cannot keep running up the deficit and support all of the programs we now have. There will need to be more scrutiny of, and compromise in, programs and more revenue coming into the treasury for American to get back on its feet.  It will be painful and take a long time.  Right now the monied interests still have a strong grip on the levers of power but eventually that will give way to the masses who will become more vocal about the future of the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick B</title>
		<link>http://www.moneybluebook.com/2009-federal-income-tax-brackets-official-irs-tax-rates/comment-page-3/#comment-139205</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew...you&#039;ve shown yourself to be rude, arrogant, and supremely immature.  Your last post speaks quite clearly to that assessment. Do you propose to go through life behaving childishly whenever someone disagrees with you?   Are you going to jump up and down and stomp your feet when you hear a dissenting opinion?  There are always numerous ways things can be viewed and problems solved.  I learned that quickly managing 65 employees in my former position. 

I disagree with your assessment/solutions to our economic problems.  For me to further elucidate my position on these issues would be a waste of time as there is no room in your consciousness for rational discussion. Your modus operandi is to bully, incite,and name call.  NOTHING in your posts has any more validity than anything I wrote. They were YOUR opinions shaded with YOUR emotions whether you realize it or not.  Opinions are just that, OPINIONS, whether they are yours or someone else&#039;s that you have latched onto.  Even the brightest economic minds have opinions lined up against those opinions. No one is the repository of incontrovertible truth. I sure hope you learn that in life. 

For your information, I know quite a bit about business and finance.  I built a successful business over a period of 10 years and sold it for a very nice profit before retiring.  I did that while working a full-time job for another employer.  I really don&#039;t need a lecture on finance and business from some young know-it-all who lacks respectful communication skills. 

This will be my last post to you as the board does not need to be burdened with this dialogue any further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew&#8230;you&#8217;ve shown yourself to be rude, arrogant, and supremely immature.  Your last post speaks quite clearly to that assessment. Do you propose to go through life behaving childishly whenever someone disagrees with you?   Are you going to jump up and down and stomp your feet when you hear a dissenting opinion?  There are always numerous ways things can be viewed and problems solved.  I learned that quickly managing 65 employees in my former position. </p>
<p>I disagree with your assessment/solutions to our economic problems.  For me to further elucidate my position on these issues would be a waste of time as there is no room in your consciousness for rational discussion. Your modus operandi is to bully, incite,and name call.  NOTHING in your posts has any more validity than anything I wrote. They were YOUR opinions shaded with YOUR emotions whether you realize it or not.  Opinions are just that, OPINIONS, whether they are yours or someone else&#8217;s that you have latched onto.  Even the brightest economic minds have opinions lined up against those opinions. No one is the repository of incontrovertible truth. I sure hope you learn that in life. </p>
<p>For your information, I know quite a bit about business and finance.  I built a successful business over a period of 10 years and sold it for a very nice profit before retiring.  I did that while working a full-time job for another employer.  I really don&#8217;t need a lecture on finance and business from some young know-it-all who lacks respectful communication skills. </p>
<p>This will be my last post to you as the board does not need to be burdened with this dialogue any further.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew K</title>
		<link>http://www.moneybluebook.com/2009-federal-income-tax-brackets-official-irs-tax-rates/comment-page-3/#comment-139040</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 10:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey rick no answer? I know that I&#039;m a brighta guy but challenge me a little on st besides emotion. It&#039;s too easy, give me a harder debate to win!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey rick no answer? I know that I&#8217;m a brighta guy but challenge me a little on st besides emotion. It&#8217;s too easy, give me a harder debate to win!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saw where in 2007 the 400 richest Americans made a million dollars about every 26 hours. If you check the Tax Schedule, a layman would probably think “Ahh a graduated income tax system, they’ll pay 35%!” Nope… They paid an average of 16.6%… Now, some of you may think this is fair. I remember B.R., you know, Before Reagan, when the tax rate on the richest Americans was +/- 74% but they only paid about half that too… So, it was dropped to help them out. Now the rate is 35% and they are paying half of this one… At some point, America should realize how the average guy on the street is not being served by our govt. But, the rich are being served really well and, based on their retirement and perks, the congress doesn’t do a bad job serving themselves either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw where in 2007 the 400 richest Americans made a million dollars about every 26 hours. If you check the Tax Schedule, a layman would probably think “Ahh a graduated income tax system, they’ll pay 35%!” Nope… They paid an average of 16.6%… Now, some of you may think this is fair. I remember B.R., you know, Before Reagan, when the tax rate on the richest Americans was +/- 74% but they only paid about half that too… So, it was dropped to help them out. Now the rate is 35% and they are paying half of this one… At some point, America should realize how the average guy on the street is not being served by our govt. But, the rich are being served really well and, based on their retirement and perks, the congress doesn’t do a bad job serving themselves either.</p>
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		<title>By: l</title>
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		<dc:creator>l</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jen, I can vouch for what you said. Same happened to us</description>
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